I won the bet

[Zoochy]

A1 gets fouled in the process of throwing the ball towards the wrong basket. The ball goes in the basket. Partner says to count the basket. I say NO basket. He says "I think you are wrong".. I tell him "The difference between you and I is that, you think I am wrong and I know I am correct!" He won't let it go, so he bets me dinner and shakes hands. Then tells me he likes steak!
After the game I get out the case book and read him case 4.41.2. He is still in denial. The other partner laughs and tells him he owes me dinner.

[Rob1968]

Originally Posted by Zoochy

A1 gets fouled in the process of throwing the ball towards the wrong basket. The ball goes in the basket. Partner says to count the basket. I say NO basket. He says "I think you are wrong".. I tell him "The difference between you and I is that, you think I am wrong and I know I am correct!" He won't let it go, so he bets me dinner and shakes hands. Then tells me he likes steak!
After the game I get out the case book and read him case 4.41.2. He is still in denial. The other partner laughs and tells him he owes me dinner.

You're in for a treat! I understand that Missouri has some great steakhouses!

[letemplay]

Did the ball go in the basket before or after(most likely) the foul?

[Adam]

Did you grant free throws?

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

Did you grant free throws?

How many team fouls?

[BktBallRef]

Who's call did you go with on the floor?

[BktBallRef]

Originally Posted by letemplay

Did the ball go in the basket before or after(most likely) the foul?

"A1 gets fouled in the process of throwing the ball towards the wrong basket."

That means the foul occurred while he was throwing the ball, not after it went in the basket.

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by BktBallRef

"A1 gets fouled in the process of throwing the ball towards the wrong basket."

That means the foul occurred while he was throwing the ball, not after it went in the basket.

You don't know that. He could have been an airborne (non) shooter returning to the floor after a layup or finger roll.

[Scrapper1]

Originally Posted by just another ref

You don't know that. He could have been an airborne (non) shooter returning to the floor after a layup or finger roll.

In that case, the ball would become dead as soon as the ball passed through the basket. So the contact would be ignored unless intentional or flagrant.

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by Scrapper1

In that case, the ball would become dead as soon as the ball passed through the basket. So the contact would be ignored unless intentional or flagrant.

Right. My point was that it was uncertain from the OP exactly when/where the contact took place.

[Scrapper1]

Originally Posted by just another ref

Right. My point was that it was uncertain from the OP exactly when/where the contact took place.

I guess my only point is that it doesn't matter when foul occurred, because it can't be a shooting foul. And it can't even be a personal foul if the ball has already gone through the basket.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Scrapper1

It can't be a shooting foul.

Not even if the team's in the bonus?

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by Scrapper1

I guess my only point is that it doesn't matter when foul occurred, because it can't be a shooting foul. And it can't even be a personal foul if the ball has already gone through the basket.

And my only point was, though unlikely, the goal could count.

[Scrapper1]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Not even if the team's in the bonus?

I don't think that's a shooting foul, by most people's vocab. A shooting foul is best understood as a foul committed while the opponent is in the act of shooting.

[just another ref]

Here's something to think about. You see your teammate throw toward the other team's basket, if the ball is about to go in, foul the nearest opponent. No basket and no free throws.

Yes, I know, unless it is intentional or flagrant.