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BktBallRef · #1 (**permalink**) Sun Jan 15, 2012, 02:21pm

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Originally Posted by letemplay

Did the ball go in the basket before or after(most likely) the foul?

"A1 gets fouled in the process of throwing the ball towards the wrong basket."

That means the foul occurred while he was throwing the ball, not after it went in the basket.

just another ref · #2 (**permalink**) Sun Jan 15, 2012, 02:30pm

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Originally Posted by BktBallRef

"A1 gets fouled in the process of throwing the ball towards the wrong basket."

That means the foul occurred while he was throwing the ball, not after it went in the basket.

You don't know that. He could have been an airborne (non) shooter returning to the floor after a layup or finger roll.

Scrapper1 · #3 (**permalink**) Sun Jan 15, 2012, 03:51pm

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Originally Posted by just another ref

You don't know that. He could have been an airborne (non) shooter returning to the floor after a layup or finger roll.

In that case, the ball would become dead as soon as the ball passed through the basket. So the contact would be ignored unless intentional or flagrant.

just another ref · #4 (**permalink**) Sun Jan 15, 2012, 05:17pm

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Originally Posted by Scrapper1

In that case, the ball would become dead as soon as the ball passed through the basket. So the contact would be ignored unless intentional or flagrant.

Right. My point was that it was uncertain from the OP exactly when/where the contact took place.

Scrapper1 · #5 (**permalink**) Sun Jan 15, 2012, 05:24pm

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Originally Posted by just another ref

Right. My point was that it was uncertain from the OP exactly when/where the contact took place.

I guess my only point is that it doesn't matter when foul occurred, because it can't be a shooting foul. And it can't even be a personal foul if the ball has already gone through the basket.

BillyMac · #6 (**permalink**) Sun Jan 15, 2012, 06:23pm

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Originally Posted by Scrapper1

It can't be a shooting foul.

Not even if the team's in the bonus?

Scrapper1 · #7 (**permalink**) Sun Jan 15, 2012, 07:07pm

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Originally Posted by BillyMac

Not even if the team's in the bonus?

I don't think that's a shooting foul, by most people's vocab. A shooting foul is best understood as a foul committed while the opponent is in the act of shooting.

just another ref · #8 (**permalink**) Sun Jan 15, 2012, 07:04pm

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Originally Posted by Scrapper1

I guess my only point is that it doesn't matter when foul occurred, because it can't be a shooting foul. And it can't even be a personal foul if the ball has already gone through the basket.

And my only point was, though unlikely, the goal could count.