That oh...crap...feeling

[Loudwhistle2]

Fiasco "Doesn't matter, coach. Player had control when the timeout was requested. Just because there was a lapse between the request and my whistle doesn't make the request invalid."

This is a great line that I use a couple of times a year.

[tref]

Originally Posted by Loudwhistle2

Fiasco "Doesn't matter, coach. Player had control when the timeout was requested. Just because there was a lapse between the request and my whistle doesn't make the request invalid."

This is a great line that I use a couple of times a year.

I agree, but to take it up a level & not have that conversation with the coach at all, I've started saying it at the spot. "Before white had team control, timeout blue."

[Adam]

Originally Posted by tref

I agree, but to take it up a level & not have that conversation with the coach at all, I've started saying it at the spot. "Before white had team control, timeout blue."

No reason to lie here. Just say you screwed up and move on. As mistakes go, this is truly minor.

Lying about it when everyone knows better just makes you look dishonest.

Edit: Didn't mean to imply you recommend lying or do it. Just getting back to the OP. This one isn't one to lose sleep over.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Loudwhistle2

"Doesn't matter, coach. Player had control when the timeout was requested. Just because there was a lapse between the request and my whistle doesn't make the request invalid."

Time-out occurs and the clock, if running, shall be stopped when an official: Grants a player’s/head coach’s oral or visual request for a time-out, such request being granted only when: The ball is at the disposal or in control of a player of his/her team.

[gdudik]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Time-out occurs and the clock, if running, shall be stopped when an official: Grants a player’s/head coach’s oral or visual request for a time-out, such request being granted only when: The ball is at the disposal or in control of a player of his/her team.

Originally Posted by Loudwhistle2

Fiasco "Doesn't matter, coach. Player had control when the timeout was requested. Just because there was a lapse between the request and my whistle doesn't make the request invalid."

I'm confused. BillyMac, are you saying that the timeout can only be GRANTED (not requested) when the appropriate team is in control of the ball? In otherwords, LoudWhistle shouldn't be doing what he says he does in granting the TO after team control has changed?

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by gdudik

Are you saying?

I'm not saying anything. I'm only quoting the rule.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Time-out occurs and the clock, if running, shall be stopped when an official: Grants a player’s/head coach’s oral or visual request for a time-out, such request being granted only when: The ball is at the disposal or in control of a player of his/her team.

I'm granting a timeout when it's properly requested. If it takes me a split second to put air in my whistle, oh well.

[bainsey]

A question for the veterans:

I get the impression that turning to verify the source of a time out request is a relatively new thing. Were you ever taught to whistle a time out request ASAP, to make sure the whistle sounds before the ball becomes loose?

[Cobra]

Originally Posted by bainsey

I get the impression that turning to verify the source of a time out request is a relatively new thing. Were you ever taught to whistle a time out request ASAP, to make sure the whistle sounds before the ball becomes loose?

Allowing someone who isn't a player to call for a timeout is a relatively new thing.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Cobra

Allowing someone who isn't a player to call for a timeout is a relatively new thing.

And that someone who isn't a player can only be the head coach, not an assistant coach, a team member on the bench, or a fan sitting behind the bench. Hot, single, moms can't request timeouts in basketball, unless they're the head coach. I don't care how hot they are.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Time-out occurs and the clock, if running, shall be stopped when an official: Grants a player’s/head coach’s oral or visual request for a time-out, such request being granted only when: The ball is at the disposal or in control of a player of his/her team.

Originally Posted by bainsey

I get the impression that turning to verify the source of a time out request is a relatively new thing. Were you ever taught to whistle a time out request ASAP, to make sure the whistle sounds before the ball becomes loose?

Here's what we've been taught. This only works for my little corner of Connecticut.

If a player is holding, or dribbling, the ball, and his coach requests a timeout, while in your visible field, or when you're are 100% sure that his coach is the one who is calling, "Timeout", then immediately grant the request for the timeout.

If the coach is not in your visible field, or you are not 100% sure that his coach is the one who is calling, "Timeout", then don't grant the request. Verify who is requesting the timeout, and then once verified, turn back to the coach's player, and if he's not holding, or dribbling, the ball, do not grant the request. If he still is holding, or dribbling, the ball, then go ahead and grant the request.

My interpreter doesn't want us granting timeouts while a defender, after stealing the ball, is driving for an uncontested layup.

Again, this is strictly a local interpretation, based on the wording of the rule, as written.