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JRutledge Fri Dec 23, 2011 11:33am

Rich stole my video!!!!
 
Honestly, this was just hilarious to me. Just a bunch of whining coaches about things that really I could give a darn about and many other officials could give a darn about. I might have laughed at most of the comments if said.

Peace

fullor30 Fri Dec 23, 2011 11:56am

Quote:

Originally Posted by RichMSN (Post 807779)
I prefer, "Keep moving, keep moving" said in that player's direction. That doesn't imply that someone's in there too long at the moment and could be just vague enough to be a banana for the HM.

I had a 3-second violation in my first game and I don't think I've had one in a game since. I've had plenty of people yell it, usually when the ball is bouncing on the rim after a shot attempt.

Least favorite call one keep moving and after that blow the whistle.

Murphy's law, whenever I'm watching for 3 seconds, I miss something.

Continuing warnings are dead wrong.

Rich Fri Dec 23, 2011 12:17pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by fullor30 (Post 807813)
Least favorite call one keep moving and after that blow the whistle.

Murphy's law, whenever I'm watching for 3 seconds, I miss something.

Continuing warnings are dead wrong.

Continuing warnings are tiresome. If I'm still talking to post players in the third quarter, I'm not getting my message across. I'll talk early, but a whistle and an off-ball foul will get the message across much better, I've found.

BktBallRef Fri Dec 23, 2011 12:20pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by bainsey (Post 807771)
0:15 "If the kid's standing in the paint, you can't say 'you gotta (get out)' ... that's a three-second call."

If that's what happened, that's a legitimate beef, IMO.

You've never talked a kid out of the lane? :eek:

26 Year Gap Fri Dec 23, 2011 12:38pm

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Originally Posted by BktBallRef (Post 807824)
You've never talked a kid out of the lane? :eek:

I went to an IAABO camp one summer, and your butt got chewed bigtime if the clinicians heard you talking to kids in the lane. That said, outside of the jurisdiction where Bainsey officiates, get out talk was frequently used. Unofficially. IAABOwise.

BktBallRef Fri Dec 23, 2011 12:43pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by 26 Year Gap (Post 807835)
I went to an IAABO camp one summer, and your butt got chewed bigtime if the clinicians heard you talking to kids in the lane. That said, outside of the jurisdiction where Bainsey officiates, get out talk was frequently used. Unofficially. IAABOwise.

Stupidity. I guess you aren't suppose to talk to kids about hands out front or pushing in the low post either. :rolleyes:

Just another reason I'm glad I live in an IAABO-free world.

JRutledge Fri Dec 23, 2011 12:45pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by BktBallRef (Post 807838)
Stupidity. I guess you aren't suppose to talk to kids about hands out front or pushing in the low post either. :rolleyes:

Just another reason I'm glad I live in an IAABO-free world.

I am going to have to agree. IAABO seems from another universe. So glad I do not have to work under that stuff either.

Peace

26 Year Gap Fri Dec 23, 2011 01:21pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by BktBallRef (Post 807838)
Stupidity. I guess you aren't suppose to talk to kids about hands out front or pushing in the low post either. :rolleyes:

Just another reason I'm glad I live in an IAABO-free world.

Quote:

Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 807839)
I am going to have to agree. IAABO seems from another universe. So glad I do not have to work under that stuff either.

Peace

I learned a lot under IAABO. Sometimes, there was a difference in opinion in various areas, though. Some of the mechanics used in one area under IAABO would definitely not have been used in Maine. One thing that is stressed is to constantly go to camps, seek advice, and to improve one's game. Some of the stuff I do in games down in FL, such as get out-knock it off type of stuff, I learned up north.

bainsey Fri Dec 23, 2011 01:23pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by BktBallRef (Post 807838)
Stupidity. I guess you aren't suppose to talk to kids about hands out front or pushing in the low post either.

You say stupidity. I say enforcement. Either way, you do what you're taught.

I don't see a big deal about whistling a three-seconds violation, or any foul in the low post (providing I watch the play through). But again, I was taught that it's not a big deal. IAABO is my universe (travel and rec league games notwithstanding), so like anywhere else, you adhere to the celestial laws.

I talk a fair amount officiating soccer ("hands DOWN!"... "keeper has it" .... "PLAY ON!!!"), but it helps when you don't have to keep the whistle in your mouth.

Quote:

Originally Posted by RichMSN
I've had plenty of people yell ["three seconds"], usually when the ball is bouncing on the rim after a shot attempt.

Now, that's something that you'll find in any universe!

Adam Fri Dec 23, 2011 01:50pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by BktBallRef (Post 807838)
Stupidity. I guess you aren't suppose to talk to kids about hands out front or pushing in the low post either. :rolleyes:

Just another reason I'm glad I live in an IAABO-free world.

I work in IAABO land as well, and we are expected to talk them out of the paint. Normally, I say "get out of the lane," and I've never, not once, had a coach complain.

Now, if I'm saying it all game, it's a problem. I think I'll try "keep moving" and see how it works.

But the fact is, in my big square of IAABO land, the practice is expected rather than condemned.

zm1283 Fri Dec 23, 2011 02:09pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 807865)
I work in IAABO land as well, and we are expected to talk them out of the paint. Normally, I say "get out of the lane," and I've never, not once, had a coach complain.

Now, if I'm saying it all game, it's a problem. I think I'll try "keep moving" and see how it works.

But the fact is, in my big square of IAABO land, the practice is expected rather than condemned.

That's the one I use quite a bit. I do it early and don't keep doing it all game. They get the hint 99% of the time.

Adam Fri Dec 23, 2011 02:13pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by bainsey (Post 807771)
2:19 If that coach got a T earlier, why is he still on his feet? Different rules in New York, I assume.

I could be wrong, but I believe NY uses modified NCAA rules rather than NFHS rules.

JRutledge Fri Dec 23, 2011 02:19pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 807869)
I could be wrong, but I believe NY uses modified NCAA rules rather than NFHS rules.

Or could he be talking about another game?

Peace

26 Year Gap Fri Dec 23, 2011 03:56pm

Quite honestly, I have a greater problem with partners who chew on me for calling 3 seconds AFTER I HAVE TOLD THE PLAYER TO LEAVE THE PAINT QUITE DISTINCTLY than I do with guys telling players to get out.

BillyMac Fri Dec 23, 2011 06:43pm

Three Seconds ...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RichMSN (Post 807779)
I've had plenty of people yell it, usually when the ball is bouncing on the rim after a shot attempt.

And don't you just love it?


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