Lane Violations

[JRutledge]

It is not getting worse IMO, it is just about the same. You have some players and certainly coaches that do not know the rule after all these years and act like you are making it up when they violate.

Peace

[BillyMac]

Quick question for really experienced veterans. Is it just my imagination, but hasn't the NFHS gone from "hit" to "release" back to "hit" over the past thirty-plus years?

Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.: It's probably too cold in Ohio for you to go up into your attic "library", so just give me an answer from memory, if you have any memory left at your age.

[twocentsworth]

IF it is, in fact, getting worse....it's not the NBA or NCAA or video games or whatever....it's because officials are not enforcing this rule.

you promote what you permit.

[26 Year Gap]

Originally Posted by twocentsworth

IF it is, in fact, getting worse....it's not the NBA or NCAA or video games or whatever....it's because officials are not enforcing this rule.

you promote what you permit.

Sorta like the "Whaddya do if the coach is griping all game?" Call the dang violation, and call it early. The kid won't violate again unless he wants the hair dryer treatment from his coach at halftime.

[twocentsworth]

Originally Posted by 26 Year Gap

Sorta like the "Whaddya do if the coach is griping all game?" Call the dang violation, and call it early.

Amen!

[JugglingReferee]

Originally Posted by twocentsworth

IF it is, in fact, getting worse....it's not the NBA or NCAA or video games or whatever....it's because officials are not enforcing this rule.

you promote what you permit.

Non-calling officials are enablers.

[Rob1968]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Quick question for really experienced veterans. Is it just my imagination, but hasn't the NFHS gone from "release" to "hit" back to "release" over the past thirty-plus years?

Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.: It's probably too cold in Ohio for you to go up into your attic "library", so just give me an answer from memory, if you have any memory left at your age.

Not to speak for Mark, his library of past Rules books is better preserved than mine. Your statement is somewhat correct: The order would be inverted - NFHS went from "hit" to "release" and now back to "hit." I'm sorry that I don't have the years of reference for the changes.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Rob1968

The order would be inverted - NFHS went from "hit" to "release" and now back to "hit".

Thanks Rob1968. I fixed it. I didn't realize that you were one of our more experienced Forum members. 1968? High school graduation?

[Rob1968]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Thanks Rob1968. I fixed it. I didn't realize that you were one of our more experienced Forum members. 1968? High school graduation?

Close. ... Year of the first inter-scholastic game I officiated.
(Darn! Now I don't have any secrets!)

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Rob1968

Year of the first inter-scholastic game I officiated.

Wow, a Forum member actually older than Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.

Hey Rob1968: When I was a high school sophomore, in an important, late season game, you may have incorrectly called me for a travel, when I didn't. That call kept me from helping my team to win the game. There was a college coach at the game and I missed out on a college scholarship. Because of that, I missed out on a career in the NBA. Most importantly, I missed out on marrying Kim Kardashian. Thanks. Belated, but, thanks. In retrospect, you may have done me a favor. And now that I think of it, I may have really traveled. Good call.

[Rob1968]

Originally Posted by billymac

wow, a forum member actually older than mark t. Denucci, sr.

Hey rob1968: When i was a high school sophomore, in an important, late season game, you may have incorrectly called me for a travel, when i didn't. That call kept me from helping my team to win the game. There was a college coach at the game and i missed out on a college scholarship. Because of that, i missed out on a career in the nba. Most importantly, i missed out on marrying kim kardashian. Thanks. Belated, but, thanks. In retrospect, you may have done me a favor. And now that i think of it, i may have really traveled. Good call.

lol

[Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Quick question for really experienced veterans. Is it just my imagination, but hasn't the NFHS gone from "release" to "hit" back to "release" over the past thirty-plus years?

Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.: It's probably too cold in Ohio for you to go up into your attic "library", so just give me an answer from memory, if you have any memory left at your age.

Prior to the early 80's (and I do not mean 1880's either, ) the rule for NBCUSC (later NFHS for boys'/girls' and NCAA Men's, and even later NCAA Women's), NAGWS (women's college and in some places girls' H.S.), FIBA, and State of Iowa which was still playing six-girl basketball at the H.S. level, the rule was "contact with the backboard or rim". Then the NFHS and NCAA Men's (and later NCAA Women's) went to "on the release" and then the NFHS went back to "contact with the backboard or rim" which we still have now.

So endth the history lesson. And Billy you are correct I did it from memory, and what was I supposed be writing about in this post, LOL.

MTD, Sr.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.

Then the NFHS and NCAA Men's (and later NCAA Women's) went to "on the release" and then the NFHS went back to "contact with the backboard or rim" which we still have now.

Anybody remember why the NFHS went back to the "hit"?

[Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Anybody remember why the NFHS went back to the "hit"?

To curtail rough play during rebounding because nobody was supposedly calling fouls.

MTD, Sr.