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grunewar Mon Dec 12, 2011 06:29pm

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Originally Posted by just another ref (Post 804028)
That is not a sure thing. Saturday, the referee for our BV game made several of the guys take off their undershirts because they had long sleeves. The other umpire and I told him he was mistaken. We ended up making a little wager. The other umpire is acquainted with the assistant executive director of our state, so he gave him a call on the way home. He backed the ruling made by the referee.:eek:

So, did the R and Asst Exec split the money? :p

Camron Rust Mon Dec 12, 2011 07:20pm

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Originally Posted by mbcrowder (Post 803944)
Yeah, ya did. The red sentence is part of his explanation as to why LGP is NOT relevant in this case. You took the sentence and reversed the context.

When I read it, that is not how it came across. Maybe he meant it to say that but that is not they way it seemed. I suppose it was ambiguous and could have been read either way. But if I read it that way, I'm sure that someone else did too.

BillyMac Mon Dec 12, 2011 08:11pm

There's A Difference Between Being Tripped, And Tripping ...
 
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Originally Posted by Jay R (Post 803968)
You often see someone get a rebound and trip on a player who fell to the floor next to them. Are you calling a travel or a foul? I'm calling the foul.

I'm probalby not (NFHS).

CoachNRef Mon Dec 12, 2011 10:36pm

this happens so often and imho i err on no-call and take the heat from fans, coaches and sometimes evaluator. if there's no contact by defender on way down, though it looks like it from 10 feet, it not a foul. but must admit im tempted to "blow with the wind" and please, otherwise i'll hear about it. there's very little respect for judgement but i did have a coach compliment me for standing my ground and tell me he always tells his players "if we lose we lost because we missed a FT, a turnover...some where we made mistakes."

great discussion...gives me more confidence for next call.

Jay R Tue Dec 13, 2011 07:10am

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Originally Posted by BktBallRef (Post 804014)
I don't make calls based who will or won't complain. :)

Jay, I think you work mostly NCAA rules, correct?

In NCAA, you'd be correct. It's specifically addressed.

But not so in NFHS.

My experience is with NCAA rules in the past and FIBA now. I live in Canada. I learned something. I never thought that NFHS would somehow be different in this context.


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