New Rules Annonced

[mick]

Originally posted by Jurassic Referee

From the new Illustrated book:

...Only 12".

[JRutledge]

This change was to go toward the Men's rule, not at all the Women's rule. This is a great change for us as officials, two less players to worry about anymore. Now we can focus on the lower positions, especially with the current restrictions on the release. And I will disagree with one thing Mick said, I think the NF is much more inclined to go toward the Men's NCAA side when it comes to rules changes. I think the NF as a whole has aligned themselves with the Men's Rules makers, mainly because not only are the most of the Committee Members men, but that is the most visible game to most people. If you look at the mechanics, rules overall, the Men's games has it's fingerprints all over the place. No different than the NCAA Women's seem to aline themselves with the NBA/WNBA Rules and mechanics.

But that is just how I see it.

Peace

[mick]

Originally posted by JRutledge
And I will disagree with one thing Mick said, I think the NF is much more inclined to go toward the Men's NCAA side when it comes to rules changes.

Rut,
I don't think we disagree.
...But it's you primary.
mick

[BktBallRef]

It seems to me that the officials who are working the WNBA have had a large impact on the changes that have been made in the Women's college game.

"Not that there's anything wrong with that!"

[Dan_ref]

Nick & Hawk, I guess there are essentially 3 things you can fiddle with on FT's:
- who stands where
- where in each space you can stand
- when players are allowed to move

Over the last few years NCAA has been doing more than their fair share of fiddling, sometimes (edit to add the mens & womens sides) agreeing and sometimes not. During most of this time the fed has been mostly silent (I think they changed back to moving on the hit instead of release 5 yrs ago?). As Mick & Jeff pointed out the fed's change this yr is to mimic the NCAA men's side in one particular area (who stands where) - and in this particular aspect there is a *huge* difference between the men's & women's side. The fed clearly came down this year on liking the men's way of doing things, IMO. Whether this continues remains to be seen.

BTW, like Rut I also think that the NCAA men's way of lining 'em up is good because it lets you focus better on the players under the basket. None of that silly "box out the shooter" stuff.


[Edited by Dan_ref on Apr 25th, 2003 at 12:18 PM]

[Dan_ref]

Originally posted by mick

...Only 12".

12"? Make sure that's not a metric ruler, could be 12 cm.

[mick]

Originally posted by Dan_ref

12"? Make sure that's not a metric ruler, could be 12 cm.

That's feeble.

[JRutledge]

Originally posted by BktBallRef
It seems to me that the officials who are working the WNBA have had a large impact on the changes that have been made in the Women's college game.

"Not that there's anything wrong with that!"

Well the same officials that work a high level D1 NCAA Women's schedule, are the same folks that work in the WNBA. Just the way it is.

Peace

[Dan_ref]

Originally posted by mick

That's feeble.

My apologies, I'l try better next time.

[stan-MI]

Hooray for the mercy rule! Hope you state adopts one. It makes game management of blowouts much easier.

[JRutledge]

Originally posted by stan-MI
Hooray for the mercy rule! Hope you state adopts one. It makes game management of blowouts much easier.

I sure as hell hope our state uses good wisdom and passes on this rule. If you need a rule like this to help game management, then you are not qualified in the first place. The reason officials love this rule is the same reason they love the rule in football. It will help them leave a great 5 minutes more than they would before the rule. And just like in Football, officials will not apply the rule properly, because all they will care about is leaving a little early, then implimenting the rule they way it is written.

Peace

[Woodee]

Do you folks think these need to be added as official signals: Vertical clap (Clean Block) or Foul tip sign (Touched Ball)?

[BktBallRef]

Originally posted by JRutledge

Well the same officials that work a high level D1 NCAA Women's schedule, are the same folks that work in the WNBA. Just the way it is.

Peace

Ah, I know. That's why I made the statement.

[BktBallRef]

Originally posted by Woodee
Do you folks think these need to be added as official signals: Vertical clap (Clean Block)...

No. Why?

You give the clean block signal about the time your partner calls a foul.

...or Foul tip sign (Touched Ball)?

If the play occurs and there's any question, I point to the playerwho touched the ball and signal that the ball was tipped. But I don't see the need for an authorized signal, requiring us to do it.

[Nevadaref]

Originally posted by BktBallRef

No. Why?

You give the clean block signal about the time your partner calls a foul.

If the play occurs and there's any question, I point to the playerwho touched the ball and signal that the ball was tipped. But I don't see the need for an authorized signal, requiring us to do it.

I complained about the use of these unofficial signals in the NCAA Men's Final Four in another thread. Most people don't seem to care if they are used. I agree with BktBallRef that they can only cause lots of trouble.