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Old Wed Nov 30, 2011, 11:24pm
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BC at the end of the game.

Did anyone see the end of the VT-Minnesota game?

There was a BC violation called on a throw-in where the ball was tipped and not controlled by VT and the ball went into the BC and a violation was called. This might be one where APG might need to clip up. I could not believe that was called.

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Old Wed Nov 30, 2011, 11:37pm
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Not only could I not believe that it was called, I was surprised that there was no visible complaining from the VT bench.
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Old Wed Nov 30, 2011, 11:38pm
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I noticed this and was shocked. I actually recorded it.
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Old Wed Nov 30, 2011, 11:39pm
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I did see that. I was shocked as soon as he called it. How could that happen? Didn't think that it was difficult at all to see there was no possession. Didn't need the replay.
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Old Thu Dec 01, 2011, 12:18am
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Florida St. v. Michigan State Game too!!!!

Then there was another call made in FSU v. MSU game too. A throw from the end line and the MSU player bobbles the ball and then the ball falls into the BC and the official calls a violation. Well at least they get together and discuss the situation and get the call right.

Man it has not been a good night for the officials in the Big Ten-ACC Challenge that is for sure.

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Saw that one. The official looked really unsure of himself when he called it.

Thought Ted Valentine standing in front of Izzo was comical.
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Here's the play in question. No doubt an incorrect call:

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Thanks man. Can you get the MSU play I was referring to as well?

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Thanks man. Can you get the MSU play I was referring to as well?

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I remember the play, but not the time when it occurred. If you can get that, it'd make it a lot easier.
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Hmm...

Not saying was the right call to make, but is it possible the calling official looked at this as PC when he muffed the catch with both hands, then appears to get one dribble in before the ball goes into BC.

Wondering if his interp of what he saw was a controlled dribble prior to the ball/player entering BC. ?

Even still, not much control to the dribble, dunno if I could make that call.
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I remember the play, but not the time when it occurred. If you can get that, it'd make it a lot easier.
It was a highlight on ESPN SportsCenter, that is all I know. I do not know the exact time as I did not see it live.

I just saw the highlight again. The play took place at 8:30 in the first half.

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Hmm...

Not saying was the right call to make, but is it possible the calling official looked at this as PC when he muffed the catch with both hands, then appears to get one dribble in before the ball goes into BC.

Wondering if his interp of what he saw was a controlled dribble prior to the ball/player entering BC. ?

Even still, not much control to the dribble, dunno if I could make that call.
No one knows what the official thought process was on the play. Perhaps he was reading the NFHS rules book and didn't see the NFHS slide show or interpretations and ruled it just from reading the rule book.

I'm sure after looking at the tape, he wishes he could have the call back because that wouldn't be a backcourt violation under NFHS, NCAA, or NBA (final two minutes of the 4th/OT).
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No one knows what the official thought process was on the play. Perhaps he was reading the NFHS rules book and didn't see the NFHS slide show or interpretations and ruled it just from reading the rule book.

I'm sure after looking at the tape, he wishes he could have the call back because that wouldn't be a backcourt violation under NFHS, NCAA, or NBA (final two minutes of the 4th/OT).

Maybe he had FIBA on his mind because it would have been a backcourt violation there!
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Maybe he had FIBA on his mind because it would have been a backcourt violation there!
In which case A1 should have manoeuvred to prevent B1 from getting the loose ball once it obtained BC status, and hope to run the clock out.
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Thought Ted Valentine standing in front of Izzo was comical.
Can't say that I liked it. Anyhow, here's the play:

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