How to handle

[JRutledge]

I think you need to inform your partners what just took place so there is not confusion. Not sure why people think that would be a local thing, that is a all level thing from my experience. Nods sound like someone might assume something that did not take place or that someone thinks the T was not the correct T by rule. You want to make sure all the officials are aware of what the T was and who is shooting. Someone might want to explain something to the coach (if need be) while the other officials get the right shooter and make sure the ball is put to the right end of the court. It might take 2 seconds, but this is something you do not want to just assume everyone knows what happened.

Peace

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

I think you need to inform your partners what just took place so there is not confusion. Not sure why people think that would be a local thing, that is an all level thing from my experience.

Agree. This is not a time to screw up by rushing anything.

[BLydic]

However, getting together as a crew and the R handling the T is not necessary.

And it must be local because we are taught and pregame that for any technical, you get together with the closest partner to sort anything out while the third keeps an eye on the players.

[JRutledge]

Everything that someone suggests is not what an entire area does.

Sometimes people suggest things where they feel it is the best way to handle it or based on what they were taught, which is not always local.

I have no idea what this person in the stands was wanting as I was not there and was not involved in the conversation. But I do feel all officials at some point need to have a conversation if one person assumes the wrong thing you can screw it up easily.

Peace

[Adam]

Getting together is the right thing. But they did that (read what happened after the nod). My point is there was no need to have the R call the T, unless that's how the local area wants it done for some reason. I doubt that's the case, but mentioned it because the OP would be well served to ask local leadership rather than take the word of a bunch of strangers on the internet.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

Getting together is the right thing. But they did that (read what happened after the nod). My point is there was no need to have the R call the T, unless that's how the local area wants it done for some reason. I doubt that's the case, but mentioned it because the OP would be well served to ask local leadership rather than take the word of a bunch of strangers on the internet.

I live in the area fullor30 lives in. I probably work for some of the same people or once worked for some of the same people, I certainly know all of them at the high school level. Not sure what leadership you are referring to? I am a President of an organization and I would not consider this to be a standard and we do not have the power to enforce such a standard. And I have never heard of a single assignor make a request that only the R could call a T in this situation. I would think the R would want to be involved considering they are the one that checked the book. I would likely call the R over to sort out the problem, but that is a common sense expectation, not a "leadership" issue. If anything the assignor might dictate that kind of rule, but I have never heard of one.

We do not work for an association like others on this discussion board. Our assignments come from individual conference assignors. Like they do in college a particular league wants something done by his/her staff, that supervisor (one person) controls that expectation, not any suspected leadership. I am also a state clinician (meaning I am a person that runs clinics and clarify questions of mechanics and state procedures) and I would not expect anyone to have the R do such a thing either. Actually I did not read this as the R was the person that had to give the T. But if that is what the person felt then consider the source just like any advice.

Peace

[Adam]

I was only allowing for the possibility, forgetting that fullor is from your area.

[fullor30]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

I live in the area fullor30 lives in. I probably work for some of the same people or once worked for some of the same people, I certainly know all of them at the high school level. Not sure what leadership you are referring to? I am a President of an organization and I would not consider this to be a standard and we do not have the power to enforce such a standard. And I have never heard of a single assignor make a request that only the R could call a T in this situation. I would think the R would want to be involved considering they are the one that checked the book. I would likely call the R over to sort out the problem, but that is a common sense expectation, not a "leadership" issue. If anything the assignor might dictate that kind of rule, but I have never heard of one.

We do not work for an association like others on this discussion board. Our assignments come from individual conference assignors. Like they do in college a particular league wants something done by his/her staff, that supervisor (one person) controls that expectation, not any suspected leadership. I am also a state clinician (meaning I am a person that runs clinics and clarify questions of mechanics and state procedures) and I would not expect anyone to have the R do such a thing either. Actually I did not read this as the R was the person that had to give the T. But if that is what the person felt then consider the source just like any advice.

Peace

To tag onto Rut's comments

Pretty much says it all, noticed past threads, posts where associations and assigners dictate certain mechanics. Not the case here, I'm in three different associations, and all follow Fed/IHSA rules. We have some great clinics here and clinicians suggest certain ways to address situations that are outside the rule book, ie: common sense, and like any other clinic you can choose to incorporate these suggestions into your game or not.

I've read some pretty strange things here that assigners or associations require their officials to follow, or for that matter, a just plain wrong ruling on situations. IMHO, Illinois is very consistent across the board.