From the dark side

[Mregor]

$50 here in Phoenix + $7 travel for metro area, and that is 2 person varsity. Behind the times in both pay and mechanics.

[the24kid]

I wanna say this year is $98 for certain three mans in NYC

[rsl]

These games are in Utah, and the "Junior Jazz" league pays $17 for fifty minute game. This is less than half the local JV rate for a two hour game ($40) and less than a third of the varsity rate for three man ($55).

I debated speaking up, but kept quiet for the sake of my 11 year old. It is really about him, and I didn't want to risk biasing anyone against his team.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by rsl

"I fought hard and managed to get certified refs for this year's games. But don't get your hopes up. They are still not very good."

Originally Posted by rsl

The "Junior Jazz" league pays $17 for fifty minute game.

I know that it's not always about the money, but by offering only $17.00 a game, you're really cutting down on your "pool" of quality officials. There aren't too many officials who would leave their homes, and families, and pay for gas, and laundry, for only $17.00. On the other hand, there are some officials who would referee a game anywhere, anytime, for any fee, as long as they walk out of the gym with a check in their back pocket. Some of these guys might be quality officials, but, for some reason, most usually aren't.

[rsl]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Some of these guys might be quality officials, but, for some reason, most usually aren't.

You are absolutely right. Utah ranks refs from 100 (the guys who do the state finals) to 800 (rookies). The guys who do this league and the comparable AAU league are usually 500-600 ranks. I have never seen a 100-200 at the $17 games.

Originally Posted by dsqrddgd909

50 Minutes? Is that time on the running clock?

No, that is just the average time it takes for these games. The games are 8 minute quarters, running clock except for the last two minutes of each half. This league can get certified JV refs because you can do two games ($34) in less time than one JV HS game ($40), and if you are in it for the cash you can get 4 games per night several nights a week. They are not bad games to get experience, and a lot of the new guys do most of these games.

So, in some sense the director is right- she is not getting the best refs because she doesn't pay well enough. But, to say so in a coaches meeting is really, really bad.

Based on the comments from you guys, I am going to send the director an email. I'll let you know what she has to say.

[Adam]

I would copy the assigner on that email. He/she needs to know exactly what sort of "support" the officials are getting sent into.

[dsqrddgd909]

Originally Posted by rsl

These games are in Utah, and the "Junior Jazz" league pays $17 for fifty minute game. This is less than half the local JV rate for a two hour game ($40) and less than a third of the varsity rate for three man ($55).

I debated speaking up, but kept quiet for the sake of my 11 year old. It is really about him, and I didn't want to risk biasing anyone against his team.

50 Minutes? Is that time on the running clock?