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rsl Thu Nov 17, 2011 12:56am

From the dark side
 
Since I can't ref this year due to health reasons, I'm coaching my 11 year old's rec team. I went to the coaches meeting tonight and the league director said something like this:

"I fought hard and managed to get certified refs for this year's games. But don't get your hopes up. They are still not very good."

I am glad they went to NHFS refs from the local association, but nothing like throwing your entire referee staff under the bus before the season even starts!

BillyMac Thu Nov 17, 2011 07:08am

In The Beginning ...
 
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Originally Posted by rsl (Post 798925)
"I fought hard and managed to get certified refs for this year's games. But don't get your hopes up. They are still not very good."

Did he expect to get top notch, experienced officials, whose last game was a state high school final last season? If so, then I hope that he was prepared to pay them the same rate as high school varsity officials, which in my little corner of Connecticut, would be $88.84 per game. Officials don't come out of the womb as "ready-to-ref" officials. We all have to start somewhere.

grunewar Thu Nov 17, 2011 07:35am

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Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 798929)
Did he expect to get top notch, experienced officials, whose last game was a state high school final last season? If so, then I hope that he was prepared to pay them the same rate as high school varsity officials, which in my little corner of Connecticut, would be $88.84 per game.

Holy snakeys! That's some real scratch. :eek:

I don't make that here, but I hardly have a commute to any of my games either.

Rich Thu Nov 17, 2011 09:30am

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Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 798929)
Did he expect to get top notch, experienced officials, whose last game was a state high school final last season? If so, then I hope that he was prepared to pay them the same rate as high school varsity officials, which in my little corner of Connecticut, would be $88.84 per game. Officials don't come out of the womb as "ready-to-ref" officials. We all have to start somewhere.

You guys in Connecticut and New York need to tell the rest of the country how to get rates like that.

We're still at $60 for most of our games.

Adam Thu Nov 17, 2011 10:07am

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Originally Posted by rsl (Post 798925)
Since I can't ref this year due to health reasons, I'm coaching my 11 year old's rec team. I went to the coaches meeting tonight and the league director said something like this:

"I fought hard and managed to get certified refs for this year's games. But don't get your hopes up. They are still not very good."

I am glad they went to NHFS refs from the local association, but nothing like throwing your entire referee staff under the bus before the season even starts!

I wouldn't hesitate to pass this information on to the assigner responsible for these games. That's absolutely ridiculous, and shouldn't go unreported, IMO.

Mark Padgett Thu Nov 17, 2011 11:48am

I hope you told this to whoever is the coordinator for the officials. He (or she) should hold an officials meeting and tell them the same thing about the coaches.

The_Rookie Thu Nov 17, 2011 01:47pm

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Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 798929)
Did he expect to get top notch, experienced officials, whose last game was a state high school final last season? If so, then I hope that he was prepared to pay them the same rate as high school varsity officials, which in my little corner of Connecticut, would be $88.84 per game. .

WOW! We here in Southern Cali making $72 per game for varsity..time to move to Conn:)

Raymond Thu Nov 17, 2011 02:11pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by rsl (Post 798925)
Since I can't ref this year due to health reasons, I'm coaching my 11 year old's rec team. I went to the coaches meeting tonight and the league director said something like this:

"I fought hard and managed to get certified refs for this year's games. But don't get your hopes up. They are still not very good."

I am glad they went to NHFS refs from the local association, but nothing like throwing your entire referee staff under the bus before the season even starts!

I would have said something in meeting. My oldest son played in a little ragtag YMCA league. I would sit back and and just watch but then they were a few parents from our team who started riding the officials as the season went on. I spoke up.

BktBallRef Thu Nov 17, 2011 02:13pm

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Originally Posted by BadNewsRef (Post 798971)
I would have said something in meeting. My oldest son played in a little ragtag YMCA league. I would sit back and and just watch but then they were a few parents from our team who started riding the officials as the season went on. I spoke up.

Yep, I couldn't have sat silently through that either.

As for game fees, we only get $85 for a GV/BV doubleheader!

Rich Thu Nov 17, 2011 03:07pm

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Originally Posted by BktBallRef (Post 798972)
Yep, I couldn't have sat silently through that either.

As for game fees, we only get $85 for a GV/BV doubleheader!

I loved those varsity DHers when I lived in Tennessee. Back then (in 1995), we only got $60 for both games. And back then, everything was done 2-person.

jdw3018 Thu Nov 17, 2011 06:09pm

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Originally Posted by RichMSN (Post 798974)
I loved those varsity DHers when I lived in Tennessee. Back then (in 1995), we only got $60 for both games. And back then, everything was done 2-person.

Still 2-person in everything but the largest two classes here in Oklahoma. We get a flat $100 or $110 (depending on the conference) per varsity DH here in this part of the state. No travel $$.

BillyMac Thu Nov 17, 2011 06:26pm

The Other 99% Are Peons ...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RichMSN (Post 798939)
You guys in Connecticut and New York need to tell the rest of the country how to get rates like that. We're still at $60 for most of our games.

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Originally Posted by The_Rookie (Post 798966)
We here in Southern Cali making $72 per game for varsity, time to move to Conn.

We're that 1% that the "Occupy" protesters have been complaining about. You guys are going to get pretty cold sleeping in those tents when winter hits.

Mregor Thu Nov 17, 2011 07:15pm

$50 here in Phoenix + $7 travel for metro area, and that is 2 person varsity. Behind the times in both pay and mechanics.

the24kid Thu Nov 17, 2011 09:00pm

I wanna say this year is $98 for certain three mans in NYC

rsl Fri Nov 18, 2011 12:27am

These games are in Utah, and the "Junior Jazz" league pays $17 for fifty minute game. This is less than half the local JV rate for a two hour game ($40) and less than a third of the varsity rate for three man ($55).

I debated speaking up, but kept quiet for the sake of my 11 year old. It is really about him, and I didn't want to risk biasing anyone against his team.


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