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Old Wed Nov 02, 2011, 01:12pm
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Rut - While I agree with you that they're going to question our judgment regardless why give them yet another reason to question that judgment? What fans/coaches/players think of your judgment is not in our control. Not giving them further, and in this case actual, ammo to question our judgment is in our control. Why even introduce it as a possibility when it's easily avoided?
I guess Rufus I should never work at a all-Black school against an non-Black school as I would give them another reason to say I was bias right? I say that accusation is made often where I live and where I live means nothing as all the folks who want to claim something, claim the racial mix of the crew had something to do with our calls. Or that you are not from the inner city. Or that you are not from the suburbs. Or you went to a private school and played in that conference with a team you might not have ever liked. Fans are irrational as well as coaches. I am not saying we should willingly do this all the time and should avoid these situations as much as possible. I would not work a game where a family member attends or works at any varsity level. But if it was a freshman game, I just might under the right circumstances.

My football crew chief will not work at a school where the head coach and he played D1 college football together. They are good friends and every time the coach sees my crew chief, he gives him a big hug because they know each other well. This happened once in a playoff game so he has decided to mark off that school anytime they are in the playoffs. That is why I say this is really a personal decision and based on the teams in your area and the dynamics. This cannot be applied across the board as where I started officiating there were not many schools to avoid. But where I live now, I might not see the same team 5 years apart under the right circumstances.

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Old Wed Nov 02, 2011, 02:09pm
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I guess Rufus I should never work at a all-Black school against an non-Black school as I would give them another reason to say I was bias right? I say that accusation is made often where I live and where I live means nothing as all the folks who want to claim something, claim the racial mix of the crew had something to do with our calls. Or that you are not from the inner city. Or that you are not from the suburbs. Or you went to a private school and played in that conference with a team you might not have ever liked. Fans are irrational as well as coaches. I am not saying we should willingly do this all the time and should avoid these situations as much as possible. I would not work a game where a family member attends or works at any varsity level. But if it was a freshman game, I just might under the right circumstances.
I hear what you're saying, but it's a bit of a straw-man argument. The OP asked about relatives at the schools regardless of the level called. I would avoid calling for those schools is all I'm saying.

As to your other points I agree you can get nuts with the exclusions and why I limit school scratches to those that involve family members.
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I hear what you're saying, but it's a bit of a straw-man argument. The OP asked about relatives at the schools regardless of the level called. I would avoid calling for those schools is all I'm saying.

As to your other points I agree you can get nuts with the exclusions and why I limit school scratches to those that involve family members.
All I really am saying is "it depends." You cannot allow fans to dictate everything we do. If the assignor has a policy then I am OK with that. But if their kid is not playing on the team, then that is another consideration. And if none of this is varsity, I say who really cares.

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Old Wed Nov 02, 2011, 08:47pm
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All I really am saying is "it depends." You cannot allow fans to dictate everything we do. If the assignor has a policy then I am OK with that. But if their kid is not playing on the team, then that is another consideration. And if none of this is varsity, I say who really cares.

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