New one for me

Toren · #1 (**permalink**) Wed Oct 26, 2011, 11:55pm

NFHS please, no NCAA

A1 is shooting a lay-up and the ball hits the backboard and the ball remains in its upward flight outside the cylinder. B1 blocks the ball. The official rules a legal play, is the official correct?

If not correct, please site ruling.

Even though I'm certified, I'm attending the first year class as a refresher and this play came up. I thought this would be useful for other newer officials.

JRutledge · #2 (**permalink**) Thu Oct 27, 2011, 12:04am

Well it might be important to know that the rule is different at the NF and NCAA, because coaches will think the NCAA rule applies.

This is a legal play. Look in Rule 9 where GT is located (sorry do not have my rulebook with me right now).

You only have GT when these things take place.

Ball must be on its downward trajectory
Ball must be completely above the rim
Ball must have a chance to go in
The ball must be touched on a try

Peace

BLydic · #3 (**permalink**) Thu Oct 27, 2011, 12:08am

Both rule sets support the officials decision. It's not basket interference because of the ball location and it's not goaltending because of the balls upward flight.

I guess I was wrong about the NCAA rules, didn't know they were different.

JRutledge · #4 (**permalink**) Thu Oct 27, 2011, 12:13am

Quote:

Originally Posted by BLydic

Both rule sets support the officials decision. It's not basket interference because of the ball location and it's not goaltending because of the balls upward flight.

Actually in NCAA this would be GT if the ball is completely above the rim when touched. I forgot to mention it in my first post.

Peace

APG · #5 (**permalink**) Thu Oct 27, 2011, 12:27am

Quote:

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Well it might be important to know that the rule is different at the NF and NCAA, because coaches will think the NCAA rule applies.

Peace

Heck, they probably think it's the NBA rule where touching the ball after it's hit the backboard with a chance to go in is goaltending period. The only time it wouldn't be goaltending would be if the ball was on its downward flight below the rim.

As far as NF goes, the ball off the backboard changes nothing. The ball has to be on its downward flight with a chance to score.

BillyMac · #6 (**permalink**) Thu Oct 27, 2011, 06:22am

The backboard has nothing to do with goaltending. Goaltending when a player touches the ball during a try, or tap, while it is in its downward flight, entirely above the basket ring level and has the possibility of entering the basket. On most layups, the ball is going up after it contacts the backboard. It is legal to pin the ball against the backboard if it still on the way up and not in the imaginary cylinder above the basket. Slapping the backboard is neither basket interference nor is it goaltending and points cannot be awarded. A player who strikes a backboard, during a tap, or a try, so forcefully that it cannot be ignored because it is an attempt to draw attention to the player, or a means of venting frustration, may be assessed a technical foul. When a player simply attempts to block a shot and accidentally slaps the backboard it is neither a violation nor is it a technical foul.