Timeout

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by soundedlikeastrike

As he's going out of bounds with possession and airborne, he requests time out.

Under NFHS (high school) rules the official should have granted the player a timeout. Not sure about NCAA, or NBA, rule sets.

Originally Posted by soundedlikeastrike

They are in the 1-1. Ref tossed ball to shooter who takes a couple dribbles, as he is setting to shoot a fellow offensive player sprints down and takes a spot on the lane?

Under NFHS rules, this is an immediate violation on the shooting team and the nonshooting team should have gotten the ball for a back court endline throwin. But if the officials didn't see it, then they missed it, and they can't call what they don't see.

[swkansasref33]

[QUOTE=BillyMac;795447]Under NFHS (high school) rules the official should have granted the player a timeout. Not sure about NCAA, or NBA, rule sets.


BillyMac,
Maybe I am wrong, but I seem to remember the rule about being able to call a timeout while airborne has changed recently.. Do you have a current rules/casebook reference?

[soundedlikeastrike]

[QUOTE=swkansasref33;795448]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Under NFHS (high school) rules the official should have granted the player a timeout. Not sure about NCAA, or NBA, rule sets.


BillyMac,
Maybe I am wrong, but I seem to remember the rule about being able to call a timeout while airborne has changed recently.. Do you have a current rules/casebook reference?

I'll add; in discussion with the crew post game, they all agreed that
"the time out can't be granted" and that "it was not a change."

[billyu2]

[QUOTE=soundedlikeastrike;795449]

Originally Posted by swkansasref33

I'll add; in discussion with the crew post game, they all agreed that
"the time out can't be granted" and that "it was not a change."

Might not be an esteemed member but see Rule 5-8-3a. A timeout can be granted when the ball is at the disposal or in CONTROL of a player of the team requesting the timeout. (NFHS) There is nothing that I've read that says deny the request if the player in control is airborne or about to go OOB.

[soundedlikeastrike]

[QUOTE=billyu2;795452]

Originally Posted by soundedlikeastrike

Might not be an esteemed member but see Rule 5-8-3a. A timeout can be granted when the ball is at the disposal or in CONTROL of a player of the team requesting the timeout. (NFHS) There is nothing that I've read that says deny the request if the player in control is airborne or about to go OOB.

I was stunned at the call, but they sold it.

Is there a protest mechanism in hoops?

I'm really more worried about the ref's, if 3 of em agree, how many more?

[grunewar]

[QUOTE=soundedlikeastrike;795485]

Originally Posted by billyu2

Is there a protest mechanism in hoops?

Pretty much up to the league.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by soundedlikeastrike

Is there a protest mechanism in hoops?

The NFHS Basketball Rules Committee does not recognize protests.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by soundedlikeastrike

I was stunned at the call, but they sold it.

Is there a protest mechanism in hoops?

I'm really more worried about the ref's, if 3 of em agree, how many more?

No protests in the rule book. But if there were, what would you do, replay every game from the point at which an official err'ed? Your season would never end.

Rec Leagues usually get 2 types of officials--

1) newbies who are just learning how to officiate

2) rec league veterans who are only doing it to supplement their incomes and do not invest time or money into training


With the payscale most rec leagues have you can expect to have a lot of errors.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by swkansasref33

Maybe I am wrong, but I seem to remember the rule about being able to call a timeout while airborne has changed recently.

I know more about quantum mechanics than I do about NCAA rules, but I'm pretty sure that the NCAA (college) rule regarding an airborne player about to go out of bounds while possessing the ball and requesting a timeout changed a few years ago, making it illegal to grant such a timeout.

While I'm unsure about the NCAA rule, I'm 100% sure that the timeout will be granted in such a situation under NFHS (high school) rules.

Hopefully one of the esteemed members of this Forum will be moseying along shortly to confirm my interpretation. I guess that they're all watching football, or raking leaves, as I'm about to do in a few minutes..

[APG]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Under NFHS (high school) rules the official should have granted the player a timeout. Not sure about NCAA, or NBA, rule sets.

NCAA
Rule 5, Section 12. Timeouts Not Granted

Art. 1. No timeouts shall be granted:

c. To a player or coach when an airborne player’s momentum is carrying him/her out of bounds or into the backcourt.

NBA
Rule 5, Section VII-Timeout Requests

e. A player shall not be granted any timeout if both of his feet are in the air and any part of his body has broken the vertical plane of the boundary line. This rule also applies to the midcourt line except during throw-ins in the last two minutes of the fourth or any overtime period.


As others have said, under NFHS rules, there is no prohibition on granting a timeout to an airborne player going out of bounds.