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Old Tue Nov 29, 2011, 02:41pm
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This is a hot button issue in So Cal right now...Our state instructional chair told us to shut down the IPADS on the bench! Too hard for us to determine if they are used for stats only or coaching purposes..so shut them down!

Has this been an issue in other parts of the Country?
Hasn't been an issue here yet that I'm aware of. Easy fix if they want to use it for stats is the person using it to do so can't be at the bench - no reason they couldn't be in the first row of the bleachers behind the bench though......
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Old Tue Nov 29, 2011, 03:22pm
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This is one rule I think we can do without. We want our schools to be technologically advanced and prepare our kids for the future, but don't allow using such tools in a game? I think we should be encouraging such use.
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Old Tue Nov 29, 2011, 10:24pm
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This is one rule I think we can do without. We want our schools to be technologically advanced and prepare our kids for the future, but don't allow using such tools in a game? I think we should be encouraging such use.
I disagree. Not all schools have the same resources to compete in that way. I do not think we want games to turn into who has more technology. And that is what would happen if you allowed IPads and other devices to be use. This also would not make the game better. If you want to coach, observe what is going on during the game on the floor, not with some video device the other team does not have or cannot use.

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I think the unintended consequence would be the video capabilities of tablet computers. On the 'good' side it could be used just like a camera to record the game. Which would make it prudent to ask the tablet user do somewhere other then the bench.
The 'bad'. After a bang bang call, the coach calls a TO (or not) and proceeds to show you the replay from their angle! Now that would be fun!
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Old Wed Nov 30, 2011, 09:40am
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I think the unintended consequence would be the video capabilities of tablet computers. On the 'good' side it could be used just like a camera to record the game. Which would make it prudent to ask the tablet user do somewhere other then the bench.
The 'bad'. After a bang bang call, the coach calls a TO (or not) and proceeds to show you the replay from their angle! Now that would be fun!
Even if the technology was allowed, this would earn him a quick seat.
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Old Wed Nov 30, 2011, 10:33am
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I disagree. Not all schools have the same resources to compete in that way.
You could say that about any resources.

Some schools have funds for nicer weight rooms, better equipment, better staffing (a big plus, ultimately), etc. All of these things can benefit a team. Technological items are merely among the tools one could use to improve one's work. And, by the way, these items are getting more and more affordable every year.

Whether a coach chooses to use a clipboard, pen and scratchpad, or iPad, they're all tools to meet a desired end. They'll never take the place of coaching, but, if used properly, they can indeed help improve performance. If they didn't, football coaches wouldn't have been trading game films, as they have for decades.

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Even if the technology was allowed, this would earn him a quick seat.
There it is. A disrespectful act is just that, regardless of the tools in use.
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Old Wed Nov 30, 2011, 10:42am
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And they can use all the technology they want before the game. The rules have always forbidden the use of video during the game, and iPads are far more powerful than a court-side camcorder. The ability to pull up game footage during the game would be unlimited with an iPad.
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You could say that about any resources.

Some schools have funds for nicer weight rooms, better equipment, better staffing (a big plus, ultimately), etc. All of these things can benefit a team. Technological items are merely among the tools one could use to improve one's work. And, by the way, these items are getting more and more affordable every year.

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We're talking about what's available on the bench for both teams during a game.

Not the same as what resources are available for practice, IMO.
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Old Wed Nov 30, 2011, 11:02am
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You could say that about any resources.

Some schools have funds for nicer weight rooms, better equipment, better staffing (a big plus, ultimately), etc. All of these things can benefit a team. Technological items are merely among the tools one could use to improve one's work. And, by the way, these items are getting more and more affordable every year.

Whether a coach chooses to use a clipboard, pen and scratchpad, or iPad, they're all tools to meet a desired end. They'll never take the place of coaching, but, if used properly, they can indeed help improve performance. If they didn't, football coaches wouldn't have been trading game films, as they have for decades.
Football and basketball coaches already use film. But you cannot use film during the game without violating those rules in football as well. This is not about using film before and after games, but I think a coach using Ipad or some other device where they can talk to others sitting in the stands or is watching video during the game. I do not think that is what the game is about and should not be allowed. Not at the HS level where the ability to do so would be so much of an advantage. Weight rooms are not inherently an advantage as the game of basketball requires more than a weight room to be a good and players and coaches would have to do more to be a good player than lift weights. In the context of a game I would not want this promoted. It is not allowed in college either and they have resources to

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Old Wed Nov 30, 2011, 10:36am
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Even if the technology was allowed, this would earn him a quick seat.
Plenty of Tea recipes can be stored on an iPad.
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