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Old Mon Oct 17, 2011, 06:08pm
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Grandfather Shot Clocks ???

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Their goal is to keep schools from feeling pressure to invest in technology.
Yeah. Like shot clocks.
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Yeah. Like shot clocks.
I think the reality is they are trying to avoid constant mistakes that you see on many levels in college with the shot clock. I do not see that as a technology issue rather than an application issue.

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I think the reality is they are trying to avoid constant mistakes that you see on many levels in college with the shot clock. I do not see that as a technology issue rather than an application issue.

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It is not a technology issue or an application issue, it is $$$$ issue.
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Old Tue Oct 18, 2011, 12:11pm
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It is not a technology issue or an application issue, it is $$$$ issue.
Probably, but if they allowed the shot clock to be used, and they could still allow it to be used by state adoption, there would be numerous situations of misapplication and at this time no replay to correct those mistakes as we possibly have at the college levels.

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Probably, but if they allowed the shot clock to be used, and they could still allow it to be used by state adoption, there would be numerous situations of misapplication and at this time no replay to correct those mistakes as we possibly have at the college levels.

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Agree completely. Definitely would be a competency issue, for tables and officials. I know 90% of the HS officials in my area would screw it up regularly.
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Probably, but if they allowed the shot clock to be used, and they could still allow it to be used by state adoption, there would be numerous situations of misapplication and at this time no replay to correct those mistakes as we possibly have at the college levels.

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Agree completely. Definitely would be a competency issue, for tables and officials. I know 90% of the HS officials in my area would screw it up regularly.
Concerning competency of table operations, if the guidelines in Appendix 4 of the Officials Manual would be followed, there would be less chance of errors happening.
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Old Tue Oct 18, 2011, 02:40pm
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Concerning competency of table operations, if the guidelines in Appendix 4 of the Officials Manual would be followed, there would be less chance of errors happening.
Most HS table personnel don't know there is even such thing as an Official's Manual.
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Concerning competency of table operations, if the guidelines in Appendix 4 of the Officials Manual would be followed, there would be less chance of errors happening.
If they are screwing the shot clock up in college ball (mostly lower level college I am talking bout), you really think some snot nosed kid is going to get this right at the HS level? And there are a lot of directives or literature to make sure those rules are followed and they are often not followed by many that run that clock. I think HS would be a nightmare.

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NCAA-M just posted a memorandum reminding everyone that iPads are prohibited from being on the bench, even if just used to keep stats:

...While the keeping of statistics on a computer or iPad may seem innocent enough and may not fall completely within the parameters of these restrictions, any exception to permit the keeping of statistics would be difficult if not impossible to enforce since the same equipment could be used to send and receive information...
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It is not a technology issue or an application issue, it is $$$$ issue.
This is what I've heard too.
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This is what I've heard too.
I do not think the two things have to be mutually exclusive.

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Old Tue Oct 18, 2011, 01:15pm
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I do not think the two things have to be mutually exclusive.

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I think it's a combination of three things:

1) $$$$
2) Timing errors / training
3) Since (most) schools can't recruit, if they feel the best chance to win is to slow the game down, they should be allowed to do so. "Entertainment" is not the issue it is in NCAA / pro.
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Old Tue Oct 18, 2011, 01:59pm
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I think the reality is they are trying to avoid constant mistakes that you see on many levels in college with the shot clock. I do not see that as a technology issue rather than an application issue.

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It is not a technology issue or an application issue, it is $$$$ issue.
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I think it's a combination of three things:

1) $$$$
2) Timing errors / training
3) Since (most) schools can't recruit, if they feel the best chance to win is to slow the game down, they should be allowed to do so. "Entertainment" is not the issue it is in NCAA / pro.
Back in April at the Basketball Rules Committee, they did revisit the idea of adding the adoption of the shot clock.

Struckhoff said the committee again discussed requiring the use of a shot clock in high school basketball, as it has done for several years, but the committee did not approve the proposal.

“Even though there’s growing interest in using a shot clock, the general sense from the committee is that the time isn’t right,” Struckhoff said. “Given the current economic climate, it would be difficult for schools to comply with a rule requiring purchasing new equipment and hiring additional table personnel.”

At last check there are 8 states that have adopted the shot clock. Those eight states are: California, Maryland, Massachusetts, New York, North Dakota, South Dakota, Rhode Island and Washington.

Read more: What states have a shot clock in high school basketball
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