The Official Forum  

Go Back   The Official Forum > Basketball
Register FAQ Community Calendar Today's Posts Search

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
  #1 (permalink)  
Old Fri Apr 11, 2003, 12:49pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Western Mass.
Posts: 9,105
Send a message via AIM to ChuckElias
Just in case anybody's interested. Nothing real new in it, just nice to see positive coverage of officiating.

http://espn.go.com/page2/s/rosen/030320.html
__________________
Any NCAA rules and interpretations in this post are relevant for men's games only!
Reply With Quote
  #2 (permalink)  
Old Fri Apr 11, 2003, 01:26pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2000
Location: Portland, Oregon
Posts: 9,466
Send a message via AIM to rainmaker
Quote:
Originally posted by ChuckElias
Just in case anybody's interested. Nothing real new in it, just nice to see positive coverage of officiating.

http://espn.go.com/page2/s/rosen/030320.html
Great article, Chuck!! It appears that you read ESPN's web site more than I do. Do you know how I might go about getting permission to reprint this?
Reply With Quote
  #3 (permalink)  
Old Fri Apr 11, 2003, 01:35pm
Whack! Get Out!!!
 
Join Date: Mar 2000
Location: Johnson City, TN
Posts: 1,029
Officiating.com four part interview with Ed Rush:
Reply With Quote
  #4 (permalink)  
Old Fri Apr 11, 2003, 02:18pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Posts: 2,910
Great read. Thanks Chuck.

Z
Reply With Quote
  #5 (permalink)  
Old Fri Apr 11, 2003, 02:59pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Posts: 216
(A quote from Rush): Overall, the videos prove that NBA officials are correct ninety-three percent of the time. So if somebody is around ninety percent, then he's not up to par.

How many of the other professional sports' officials would be able to admit such a claim.

I would have to say that NBA officials have the most difficult job. All professional sports are a business and are entertainment. The powers that be want 1) their stars on the floor and 2) those stars to be able to entertain. Those stars cannot entertain if traveling was called the way it was years ago. And those stars cannot stay on the floor if fouls were called the way they were years ago. This doesn't put the officials in an admirable position. My hats off to them.
Reply With Quote
  #6 (permalink)  
Old Fri Apr 11, 2003, 03:00pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Western Mass.
Posts: 9,105
Send a message via AIM to ChuckElias
Quote:
Originally posted by rainmaker
Do you know how I might go about getting permission to reprint this?
No idea, Juulie, sorry. Maybe email the author via the web site? See if he has an email link on the story page, or maybe on a bio page.

Chuck
__________________
Any NCAA rules and interpretations in this post are relevant for men's games only!
Reply With Quote
  #7 (permalink)  
Old Fri Apr 11, 2003, 08:44pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Posts: 130
Quote:
Originally posted by wizard
(A quote from Rush): Overall, the videos prove that NBA officials are correct ninety-three percent of the time. So if somebody is around ninety percent, then he's not up to par.

How many of the other professional sports' officials would be able to admit such a claim.

I would have to say that NBA officials have the most difficult job. All professional sports are a business and are entertainment. The powers that be want 1) their stars on the floor and 2) those stars to be able to entertain. Those stars cannot entertain if traveling was called the way it was years ago. And those stars cannot stay on the floor if fouls were called the way they were years ago. This doesn't put the officials in an admirable position. My hats off to them.

I'm a big fan of the NBA and I don't understand how the game is taken as pure entertainment. I do understand the business aspect, but really believe its about b-ball. Micheal Jordan never looked liked he was entertaining in his championship runs. Shaq doesn't look like he is entertaining either. They have NO SMILES until they WIN!!!
__________________
Woodee
Reply With Quote
  #8 (permalink)  
Old Fri Apr 11, 2003, 10:24pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2000
Posts: 14,616
Quote:
Originally posted by Woodee
I'm a big fan of the NBA and I don't understand how the game is taken as pure entertainment. I do understand the business aspect, but really believe its about b-ball. Micheal Jordan never looked liked he was entertaining in his championship runs. Shaq doesn't look like he is entertaining either. They have NO SMILES until they WIN!!!
It's entertainment to the extent that the rules have been changed, and in some cases disregarded, so that "great" plays aren't called fouls or violations. Traveling could be called on about an dirve to the basket or low post move. Swinging on the rim is pretty well accepted. A player really has to swing and pull up to get a T. Also, although I don't believe it's as widespread as some do, stars are given preferential treament to an extent.

Just my thoughts.
Reply With Quote
  #9 (permalink)  
Old Mon Apr 14, 2003, 07:29am
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Posts: 216
Quote:
Originally posted by Woodee
They have NO SMILES until they WIN!!! [/B]
Read the latest article from ESPN Mag about the Bulls' Jason Williams and you'll understand what they really care about. Unless they're on one of the elite teams, it's just a job.
Reply With Quote
  #10 (permalink)  
Old Mon Apr 14, 2003, 08:09pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Posts: 130
You are Right!

Quote:
Originally posted by wizard
Quote:
Originally posted by Woodee
They have NO SMILES until they WIN!!!
Read the latest article from ESPN Mag about the Bulls' Jason Williams and you'll understand what they really care about. Unless they're on one of the elite teams, it's just a job. [/B]

I would consider it a JOB more than entertainment. When people say entertainment, the OUTCOME is predicted. I don't see that in the NBA. Example: Shaq, " Hey Tim Duncan we did a good job tonight. Next time we will let you guys win". Tim Duncan " Nah don't worry about it, the crowd Loved it , thats all that matters".
__________________
Woodee
Reply With Quote
  #11 (permalink)  
Old Tue Apr 15, 2003, 10:26am
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2000
Location: Just north of hell
Posts: 9,250
Send a message via AIM to Dan_ref
Quote:
Originally posted by ChuckElias
Quote:
Originally posted by rainmaker
Do you know how I might go about getting permission to reprint this?
No idea, Juulie, sorry. Maybe email the author via the web site? See if he has an email link on the story page, or maybe on a bio page.

Chuck
Maybe she's figured this out already but she'll need to go to Disney for permission...there's a link to click on the bottom of the page with the legal fine print.
Reply With Quote
  #12 (permalink)  
Old Tue Apr 15, 2003, 10:52am
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Posts: 744
Maybe it's just me, but if I got only 93% of my calls right, I'd be downright embarrassed. Everybody boots one every now and then, but 7 out of every 100? And these guys are supposed to be the best in the world? Please.
Reply With Quote
  #13 (permalink)  
Old Tue Apr 15, 2003, 11:27am
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2000
Location: Just north of hell
Posts: 9,250
Send a message via AIM to Dan_ref
Quote:
Originally posted by TriggerMN
Maybe it's just me, but if I got only 93% of my calls right, I'd be downright embarrassed. Everybody boots one every now and then, but 7 out of every 100? And these guys are supposed to be the best in the world? Please.
...of course, no one is videotaping 100% of your calls, from 3 different angles, and studying them on a daily basis. Are they?
Reply With Quote
  #14 (permalink)  
Old Wed Apr 16, 2003, 12:45am
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2000
Location: Portland, Oregon
Posts: 9,466
Send a message via AIM to rainmaker
Quote:
Originally posted by Dan_ref
Quote:
Originally posted by ChuckElias
Quote:
Originally posted by rainmaker
Do you know how I might go about getting permission to reprint this?
No idea, Juulie, sorry. Maybe email the author via the web site? See if he has an email link on the story page, or maybe on a bio page.

Chuck
Maybe she's figured this out already but she'll need to go to Disney for permission...there's a link to click on the bottom of the page with the legal fine print.
Dan -- thanks for this reference. I never would have gotten it if you hadn't pointed it out. It took some wading, but I did find a way to request it. Now, we'll see if it's granted!
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 05:14am.



Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.3.0 RC1