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Old Thu Oct 06, 2011, 01:41pm
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I've been attending the new officials class. I did get patched last year, so I'm just doing it to try and build my rules knowledge. Plus I'm a junkie for talking basketball.

A point of discussion last night and I'm not sure where this came from, but I've had this debate at least 5 times.

On a technical or intentional, the non shooting players do not have to go to the other side of the half-court line. The non-shooting players simply have to be above the free throw line extended and beyond the three point arc, just like any other free throw. On a technical or intentional the lane is unoccupied.

Have others had this same debate?
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Old Thu Oct 06, 2011, 01:48pm
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I've been attending the new officials class. I did get patched last year, so I'm just doing it to try and build my rules knowledge. Plus I'm a junkie for talking basketball.

A point of discussion last night and I'm not sure where this came from, but I've had this debate at least 5 times.

On a technical or intentional, the non shooting players do not have to go to the other side of the half-court line. The non-shooting players simply have to be above the free throw line extended and beyond the three point arc, just like any other free throw. On a technical or intentional the lane is unoccupied.

Have others had this same debate?
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Old Thu Oct 06, 2011, 01:52pm
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Just ask them to give you a rules reference to where players must be behind the halfcourt line during free throws with no line up. When they can't find it, you can tell them because the only restrictions are behind the 3 point arc, above the FT line extended.
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Old Thu Oct 06, 2011, 01:53pm
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Well I teach a new official's class and yes I have had to explain to officials that the rules do not drastically change on these FT situations. It is one of those myths that people think applies when it does not. Also this is not just a problem with coaches or players and fans; it applies to officials that believe they must be there as well. Also many times players go there anyway so it is not always a big deal, but if the team wants to talk to their coach as long as they stay above the FT line and outside of the 3 point area they are fine. I have seen officials prevent players from talking to their coach or going by the bench when they are not doing anything illegal.

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Old Thu Oct 06, 2011, 05:35pm
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On free throws, there is a maximum of two offensive players and four defensive players in the six marked lane spaces. The defense must be in the first marked lane spaces, above the neutral zone marks, on all free throws. The offense must not occupy the first marked lane spaces, above the neutral zone marks. The shooter and all the players in the designated lane spaces must wait until the ball hits rim or backboard before entering the lane.

Players, other than the shooter, and the players in the designated lane spaces, are to remain behind the free throw line extended and behind the three point arc, and may not penetrate the free throw line extended and the three point arc until the ball hits rim or backboard. During a free throw, no opponent, including bench personnel, may disconcert the free thrower. For free throws when there are no rebounders in the marked lane spaces, i.e. technical fouls and intentional fouls, the nine nonshooters shall remain behind the free throw line extended and behind the three point arc.
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Well I teach a new official's class and yes I have had to explain to officials that the rules do not drastically change on these FT situations. It is one of those myths that people think applies when it does not. Also this is not just a problem with coaches or players and fans; it applies to officials that believe they must be there as well. Also many times players go there anyway so it is not always a big deal, but if the team wants to talk to their coach as long as they stay above the FT line and outside of the 3 point area they are fine. I have seen officials prevent players from talking to their coach or going by the bench when they are not doing anything illegal.

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