Is it legal to push back the opponent while posting

[MiamiWadeCounty]

I ask this question because I see many offensive post players "backing in" or pushing back the opponent, and no foul is called. I thought this was illegal. Is their something I missing?

[Scrapper1]

It's not legal to displace an opponent. If the opponent gives ground, well. . .

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Scrapper1

It's not legal to displace an opponent. If the opponent gives ground, well. . .

YEP, it's a fine line sometimes.

[MiamiWadeCounty]

Originally Posted by Scrapper1

If the opponent gives ground, well. . .

What do you mean by the opponent giving ground?

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by MiamiWadeCounty

What do you mean by the opponent giving ground?

It basically means that the player is not contesting the player's movement. In other words they are allowing the player to go where they want. Now if they try to hold that position or fight the movement, that is a different story. That is one reason it is hard to decide who is doing what sometimes because both players are moving to keep their position. When one gets and advantage it should be a foul.

Peace

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

It basically means that the player is not contesting the player's movement. In other words they are allowing the player to go where they want. Now if they try to hold that position or fight the movement, that is a different story. That is one reason it is hard to decide who is doing what sometimes because both players are moving to keep their position. When one gets and advantage it should be a foul.

Peace

+1

Also, contrary to popular belief, it is not necessary for the defender to fall down for the foul to be on the offensive player.

[tref]

Originally Posted by just another ref

+1

Also, contrary to popular belief, it is not necessary for the defender to fall down for the foul to be on the offensive player.

+1

It's important to get the first foul in the post as well. Many times the first foul is the defenders knee in the offensive players rear, which can lead to displacing "get even" tactics.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by tref

+1

It's important to get the first foul in the post as well. Many times the first foul is the defenders knee in the offensive players rear, which can lead to displacing "get even" tactics.

Which is why it's important for the new Lead to get into position and ref his primary instead of staring back up court to watch the ball.

[26 Year Gap]

People posting here push back all the time.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by 26 Year Gap

People posting here push back all the time.

And occasionally, Bob has to call a foul.

[grunewar]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

And occasionally, Bob has to call a foul.

Or, in my case a while back, I didn't listen to Bob and answered a spammer on the forum, and got a one day suspension.......

Tough, but fair official, that Bob (and his entire crew).

[26 Year Gap]

Originally Posted by grunewar

Or, in my case a while back, I didn't listen to Bob and answered a spammer on the forum, and got a one day suspension.......

Tough, but fair official, that Bob (and his entire crew).

Good thing you didn't ORDER anything.....

[Amesman]

Been itching to ask for views on this scenario for a while and this seems like a good opening ...

Two-whistle game, you're lead, administering B1's free throws. During said throws, what's your best advice for determining whether A2 (in the lowest position, opposite) is getting pushed by B2 to the point of a foul during the shot and boxout?

Let me clarify: A2 is not jumping, but rather digging in for the box-out. There's a total straight-lining there.

I knew the family of A2 in one particular game and asked later if he was really getting the pressure from behind and he said yes. I had thought as much, yet from the endline, I saw no displacement so figured I had nothing to call. I told him it would have helped if I saw him move or lurch at some point. Thoughts?

[tref]

Originally Posted by Amesman

I saw no displacement so figured I had nothing to call.

Minus any obvious displacemment, thats a tough call for the L.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Amesman

I knew the family of A2 in one particular game and asked later if he was really getting the pressure from behind and he said yes. I had thought as much, yet from the endline, I saw no displacement so figured I had nothing to call. I told him it would have helped if I saw him move or lurch at some point. Thoughts?

Cannot call what you cannot see. And it is worse to call something purely on a guess.

Peace