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Old Tue Oct 04, 2011, 11:38pm
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What do you mean by the opponent giving ground?
It basically means that the player is not contesting the player's movement. In other words they are allowing the player to go where they want. Now if they try to hold that position or fight the movement, that is a different story. That is one reason it is hard to decide who is doing what sometimes because both players are moving to keep their position. When one gets and advantage it should be a foul.

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Old Tue Oct 04, 2011, 11:50pm
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It basically means that the player is not contesting the player's movement. In other words they are allowing the player to go where they want. Now if they try to hold that position or fight the movement, that is a different story. That is one reason it is hard to decide who is doing what sometimes because both players are moving to keep their position. When one gets and advantage it should be a foul.

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+1

Also, contrary to popular belief, it is not necessary for the defender to fall down for the foul to be on the offensive player.
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Old Wed Oct 05, 2011, 09:19am
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Also, contrary to popular belief, it is not necessary for the defender to fall down for the foul to be on the offensive player.
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It's important to get the first foul in the post as well. Many times the first foul is the defenders knee in the offensive players rear, which can lead to displacing "get even" tactics.
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Old Wed Oct 05, 2011, 09:27am
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It's important to get the first foul in the post as well. Many times the first foul is the defenders knee in the offensive players rear, which can lead to displacing "get even" tactics.
Which is why it's important for the new Lead to get into position and ref his primary instead of staring back up court to watch the ball.
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People posting here push back all the time.
And occasionally, Bob has to call a foul.
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And occasionally, Bob has to call a foul.
Or, in my case a while back, I didn't listen to Bob and answered a spammer on the forum, and got a one day suspension.......

Tough, but fair official, that Bob (and his entire crew).
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Old Thu Oct 06, 2011, 02:20pm
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It basically means that the player is not contesting the player's movement. In other words they are allowing the player to go where they want. Now if they try to hold that position or fight the movement, that is a different story. That is one reason it is hard to decide who is doing what sometimes because both players are moving to keep their position. When one gets and advantage it should be a foul.

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So, if the opponent gives ground, you cannot displace him, correct?
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Old Thu Oct 06, 2011, 02:25pm
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So, if the opponent gives ground, you cannot displace him, correct?
How are you displacing anyone if that person is moving in the same direction you are?

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Old Thu Oct 06, 2011, 02:40pm
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How are you displacing anyone if that person is moving in the same direction you are?

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LOL So giving ground means something like to back away? I didn't know that was what it meant. Sorry to ask that question.
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Old Thu Oct 06, 2011, 02:46pm
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LOL So giving ground means something like to back away? I didn't know that was what it meant. Sorry to ask that question.
What is the definition of displacement?

Displace: "To move or shift from the usual place or position."

So in order to have a foul for displacement of some kind, you have to move a person with contact to another position or place. Giving ground basically means you are moving with the person and allowing them to go where they want to. I am not mad you asked the question, just trying to explain to you what this means.

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