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Old Wed Sep 21, 2011, 04:09pm
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Made a layup at wrong basket

Had my first official games of the season last night. Had the old made-a-layup-in-the-wrong-basket come up.

Team A inbounds from the endline furthest from their basket. A2 catches the inbounds pass and immediately shoots and makes a layup...in the wrong basket.

We stopped play, counted the two points for B, then set up for a throw in by Team A. Only problem was, I couldn't remember whether or not it's a spot throw in.

So which is it?
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Old Wed Sep 21, 2011, 04:26pm
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Newer official here.

Without the help of my rulebook

I would assume this to be a running the endline situation. Reason I say that is, it would penalize Team A even more than just awarding Team B 2 points, it would now cost them the ability to run the endline. That seems to me to be too much of a penalty for being ignorant on the part of Team A.
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Old Wed Sep 21, 2011, 04:32pm
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Yes, the ensuing throw-in is anywhere along the endline. 7-5-7
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Old Wed Sep 21, 2011, 04:47pm
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Look at it this way, it is still an awarded (made) basket. So the rules apply the same as with other situations on a made basket.

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Old Wed Sep 21, 2011, 05:53pm
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It is still a goal even if it was not a try.
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Old Wed Sep 21, 2011, 06:58pm
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It would be a d**k of a rule to not let A run the end line after a mess up like that.
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Old Thu Sep 22, 2011, 06:11pm
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Hate to be a rules guy but .......

for definition purposes only, this play is not considered a try for goal. I say that because if that player was fouled ther would be no free throws unless team A was in the bonus....... as it can't be a shooting foul.

OK - off the sopabox!!!!!!!
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Old Thu Sep 22, 2011, 06:19pm
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for definition purposes only, this play is not considered a try for goal. I say that because if that player was fouled ther would be no free throws unless team A was in the bonus....... as it can't be a shooting foul.

OK - off the sopabox!!!!!!!
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It is still a goal even if it was not a try.
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Old Thu Sep 22, 2011, 07:32pm
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It is still a goal even if it was not a try.
For the newer officials, the reason it's not a try is that a try is defined as an attempt to throw the ball into a team's own goal. So throwing the ball into the opponent's goal still counts as two points (since a live ball passed through the basket), but is not a try.

So if a common foul occurs during the throw (at the opponent's goal), continuous motion does not apply and no free throws are awarded.
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Old Fri Sep 23, 2011, 06:15am
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For the newer officials, the reason it's not a try is that a try is defined as an attempt to throw the ball into a team's own goal. So throwing the ball into the opponent's goal still counts as two points (since a live ball passed through the basket), but is not a try.

So if a common foul occurs during the throw (at the opponent's goal), continuous motion does not apply and no free throws are awarded.
More than that, not only does the pre-release movement not get to finish, but the post-release ball in flight becomes immediately dead at the time of the foul.
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Old Fri Sep 23, 2011, 07:57am
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More than that, not only does the pre-release movement not get to finish, but the post-release ball in flight becomes immediately dead at the time of the foul.
Crap. I knew I forgot something. Good catch, Nevada.
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Old Fri Sep 23, 2011, 11:54am
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I've seen this happen twice in games I've worked. (One opposing coach accepted the points; the other declined.) Both times, the kids were too embarrassed to even consider running the line.
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Old Fri Sep 23, 2011, 11:58am
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(One opposing coach accepted the points; the other declined.)
What?
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Old Fri Sep 23, 2011, 11:59am
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I've seen this happen twice in games I've worked. (One opposing coach accepted the points; the other declined.) Both times, the kids were too embarrassed to even consider running the line.
Can they do that, by rule?
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Old Fri Sep 23, 2011, 12:41pm
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I've seen this happen twice in games I've worked. (One opposing coach accepted the points; the other declined.) Both times, the kids were too embarrassed to even consider running the line.
Since when do we allow coaches to decline points?
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