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One last play?? Whats up with that... keep em coming APG!
Those that say charge, I ask you to look at the left hand of the defender at the :15 mark, he clearly impedes the offensive players forward progress prior to the crash. IMO that is the first foul. I would've liked to see the T get behind that matchup before administering the throw-in. But to be honest he was so locked in on the the non-guarded thrower, I dont think depth could have helped here. Maybe the thrower was a known violator in those parts ![]()
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From the comfort of my computer, I looked at the play several times so I can see why some would say offensive. At the time of the play, and assuming I was watching the players from the beginning, I probably would have called a block.
For those who say they wish he would have got behind the play before inbounding the ball: how far would you like him to go? He isn't especially close to the inbounder and at some point he has to open up as opposed to moving back - he could end up "bouncing" the ball from 20 feet away otherwise.
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If we are allowing A1 to play through it (as he is the intended receiver) I got a block... either way its "staying here." Quote:
IMO if a steal occured in this play the T (new L) is already beat.
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For a first year official, I think this guy did quite well.
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As for the decision on the call, I believe it is very close. I have a block for the same reason APG mentioned. However, the action is so very close to a charge that if they were consistently called a charge throughout the game, I wouldn't say too much.
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[QUOTE=tref;784651]Ok, if impedes away from the ball are mere fleas to you, so be it.[QUOTE]
Clear cut impedes, you bet, get 'em everytime...but, this particular play, if you're going to deem that illegal contact, then you are going to have a foul on every single play and every single throwin all night long. I never said don't allow freedom of movement, what I say is, this simply isn't enough to put a whistle on. |
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Going to have to go with a push on the offensive player as well. There is contact by the defender, but not enough IMO to create a disadvantage.
Yes, it would have been nice for the ref to have been looking at the players instead of the thrower-in and yes, it would have been nice for him to give the correct signal ... but I believe in the end the right player was penalized.
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I have a block.
1. As some stated, the defender is moving into the offensive player. 2. The offensive player does not have the ball so now time and distance apply similar to a screen. This is similar to blocking a cutter, you can't just jump in front of a cutter and expect an offensive foul when he runs you over. He needs time and distance. Last edited by Jay R; Wed Aug 31, 2011 at 03:06pm. |
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I don't have any set distance, but there is a point where I will open up instead of moving back. I don't think the official in the video is too far from where he should be. I could tell he was relatively inexperienced when watching the video, but he is doing OK for someone in their first year.
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Yeah the new guy isnt afraid to blow, gotta give him credit for putting a whistle on it!
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