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Old Tue Aug 30, 2011, 10:35am
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Officials who wear their collegiate warmup jacket to work a high school contest.
A great example, for many, of big-timing.
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Old Tue Aug 30, 2011, 11:45am
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Are you saying "really" because you do not agree or you do not believe that happens?

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Old Tue Aug 30, 2011, 11:50am
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A great example, for many, of big-timing.
I do not think anyone really does this out of big timing. I think this is done more out of total ignorance. I see more younger and newer officials wearing these jackets than I see those that actually work those games on a regular basis.

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Old Tue Aug 30, 2011, 11:54am
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Are you saying "really" because you do not agree or you do not believe that happens?

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I took it as "I'm very surprised that's really number one on your list of what makes a bad partner"

It can be a symptom of "big timing" and I agree that "big timing" can be a problem, but just wearing the jacket isn't very high on my list.
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Old Tue Aug 30, 2011, 12:07pm
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Are you saying "really" because you do not agree or you do not believe that happens?

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I've never seen an official(s) wear the CCA jacket to a HS game. One has to be really excited about working college games or just plain & simple, trying to big time someone.

There used to be a time when you could accidently "grab the wrong jacket" but since they put the big white stripes on it, that excuse is no longer valid.

A partner wearing the jacket wouldn't rank very high on my list though...
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Old Tue Aug 30, 2011, 12:34pm
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I took it as "I'm very surprised that's really number one on your list of what makes a bad partner"

It can be a symptom of "big timing" and I agree that "big timing" can be a problem, but just wearing the jacket isn't very high on my list.
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I've never seen an official(s) wear the CCA jacket to a HS game. One has to be really excited about working college games or just plain & simple, trying to big time someone.

There used to be a time when you could accidently "grab the wrong jacket" but since they put the big white stripes on it, that excuse is no longer valid.

A partner wearing the jacket wouldn't rank very high on my list though...
And that is why I asked. Because it does happen around here even with the big white stripe more than I would like to admit. I can go to some big time tournaments and see guys wearing these jackets left and right. It is usually a sign that the ego of those are out of whack if they are doing this at the varsity level and some of those will complain they are not getting a shot in the post season. That certainly does not have to be high on anyone's list, but it usually goes back to "professionalism" in which I find very high on my list and often is exposed by little things like wearing this jacket. These are the same guys that will not use a mechanic or will apply a college rule because it is not what they learned a college camp if they wear the jacket on purpose.

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Old Tue Aug 30, 2011, 01:01pm
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It is usually a sign that the ego of those are out of whack if they are doing this at the varsity level and some of those will complain they are not getting a shot in the post season. That certainly does not have to be high on anyone's list, but it usually goes back to "professionalism" in which I find very high on my list and often is exposed by little things like wearing this jacket.
It certainly doesn't communicate "I'm here for the GAME first & foremost, my partners secondly & myself last."
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I worked a women's college game years ago and my partner who was assigned the game by the conference assigner wore his H.S. shirt (i.e., StateHSAA patch) and his H.S. (StateHSAA patch) warm-up jacket. It was a fun game to officiate, .

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I remember wearing my HS patched shirt to college camps early on

Also wore shorts to my 1st ever HS game

I dont know much now & knew even less back then, but at least now I know what I dont know
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The more you study, the more you know. The more you know, the more you forget. The more you forget, the less you know. So, why study?

The less you study, the less you know. The less you know, the less you forget. The less you forget, the more you know. So, why study?
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The more you study, the more you know. The more you know, the more you forget. The more you forget, the less you know. So, why study?

The less you study, the less you know. The less you know, the less you forget. The less you forget, the more you know. So, why study?
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Why isn't there one jacket standard for all levels below NCAA? In Canada, everybody from Jr. High on up (though JH officials generally don't worry too much about jackets) wears the same black jacket with the national association crest on it.
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Old Thu Sep 01, 2011, 12:00am
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Why isn't there one jacket standard for all levels below NCAA? In Canada, everybody from Jr. High on up (though JH officials generally don't worry too much about jackets) wears the same black jacket with the national association crest on it.
Because this is not Canada.

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Because this is not Canada.

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