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Mark Padgett Thu Aug 25, 2011 08:16pm

Bottom one?
 
OK - now that we've discussed what the top three attributes we like to see in a partner are, let's cover the most disappointing attribute a partner could have. Lack of rules knowledge? Calling out of area? No hustle? Not using advantage/disadvantage? Poor mechanics? Condescending attitude? Won't share meds?

What do you guys say?

APG Thu Aug 25, 2011 08:31pm

Not being professional

just another ref Thu Aug 25, 2011 08:31pm

Most disappointing thing to me is a partner who disappears when you need him most. Calls a good solid game in a jr. high blowout, but in a tight varsity 4th quarter totally forgets how to blow the whistle.

Pantherdreams Thu Aug 25, 2011 08:50pm

The guy who makes me decide between having consistency amongst the crew and making bad calls.

bainsey Thu Aug 25, 2011 10:32pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by AllPurposeGamer (Post 783697)
Not being professional

+1

Close second: Incorrect verbage (i.e. "over the back"). That's an immediate ratings dropper for me.

grunewar Fri Aug 26, 2011 04:16am

The Guy Who Doesn't Care.....
 
I want my partner(s) to want to be there. If they're just going through the motions for the $, I'd rather do it myself/or two-man. It get's into the entire realm of appearance, not professional, doesn't hustle, poor comms, poor signals, etc.

JRutledge Fri Aug 26, 2011 08:43am

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Originally Posted by AllPurposeGamer (Post 783697)
Not being professional

I agree because this means so many things.

Peace

Toren Fri Aug 26, 2011 10:51am

Granted I'm just getting done with my first patched year. So I'm a noob.

1. An untrustworthy partner.
2. Someone not willing to give maximum effort.
3. Someone who has a personal agenda.

Rufus Fri Aug 26, 2011 12:38pm

Partners who don't show and, even when they're there physically, don't show.

Nevadaref Sat Aug 27, 2011 02:11am

Outside of a partner who fails to show up for the game, here are my top 5:

1. Someone who wants the attention on him/her. Shows in two ways--flashy exaggerated mechanics and would rather blow the whistle on a close call than let the play go without a whistle. This person inserts himself/herself into the game too frequently. This person is just itching to blow the whistle and wants desperately to make the big call.

2. The partner who holds too high an opinion of himself/herself. This person's calls cannot ever be critiqued because he/she is always right and always has some explanation for why such and such a decision was correct even though everyone else knows it was BS. This person believes that the game being officiated is beneath him/her and wants to talk about how many college games he/she has done or when I had so and so last week or I'll be at a certain place next week.

3. The person who is too chatty with the players and coaches. Just leads to problems and also slows down the action.

4. Laziness. Doesn't want to switch, doesn't hustle to the table to report fouls, is slow to administer throw-ins and FTs. Turns a 1 hr and ten minute game into 90 minutes. Makes the game drag and sucks the energy out of it by being slow.

5. The person who calls fouls and violations on plays because they look awkward instead of apply what is written in the book. The play may be perfectly legal, but gets a whistle--sometimes right in front of YOU! Examples are when a player jumps or twists at an odd angle and avoids contact, but yells or lands hard or a player muffs a pass and juggles it for a few steps before controlling it. The first gets a foul on the nearest defender and the second gets called traveling. Many of these are ex-players or coaches who KNOW that they are right and can't be told otherwise.

jeschmit Sat Aug 27, 2011 07:28am

1. Not a good communicator (pre-game, during game with verbal AND non-verbal and POST-game)
2. doesn't hustle on the floor
3. thinks that they're God's gift to officiating

(4. Wears a belt...)

just another ref Sat Aug 27, 2011 01:01pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by nevadaref (Post 783945)
5. The person who calls fouls and violations on plays because they look awkward instead of apply what is written in the book. The play may be perfectly legal, but gets a whistle--sometimes right in front of you!

+1

+5

Scooby Sun Aug 28, 2011 01:38am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rufus (Post 783852)
Partners who don't show and, even when they're there physically, don't show.

I disagree, I would rather not have "him" there, then be there, and throw me under the bus.

Mark T. DeNucci, Sr. Sun Aug 28, 2011 09:43am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark Padgett (Post 783696)
OK - now that we've discussed what the top three attributes we like to see in a partner are, let's cover the most disappointing attribute a partner could have. Lack of rules knowledge? Calling out of area? No hustle? Not using advantage/disadvantage? Poor mechanics? Condescending attitude? Won't share meds?

What do you guys say?


All of the above.

MTD, Sr.

BillyMac Sun Aug 28, 2011 11:48am

Choo Choo Charlie ...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark Padgett (Post 783696)
Let's cover the most disappointing attribute a partner could have.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr. (Post 784106)
MTD, Sr.

I hate working with structural engineers. Too smart. Always thinking.


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