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Old Fri Aug 12, 2011, 08:32pm
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Not all contact is a foul, whatever you saw before the block in my opinion was not advantageous toward the. defense. So your saying to send the player to the line by calling the foul because of the score and time left?

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Old Fri Aug 12, 2011, 11:56pm
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You're saying that the fact that this is the road team taking the shot is important to the call that you would make in this circumstance? And this is something that you would make a point to be conscious of at the time?
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Old Sat Aug 13, 2011, 02:48am
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You're saying that the fact that this is the road team taking the shot is important to the call that you would make in this circumstance? And this is something that you would make a point to be conscious of at the time?
I can't speak for him, but that is how I read it. Now, how many of us have never, ever officiated a blow out and called more fouls on the team winning by a large margin? If someone can say they have never done something like that, on any level, then I guess that official could have a problem with what is being said.
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Old Sun Aug 14, 2011, 05:42pm
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I can't speak for him, but that is how I read it. Now, how many of us have never, ever officiated a blow out and called more fouls on the team winning by a large margin? If someone can say they have never done something like that, on any level, then I guess that official could have a problem with what is being said.
You're saying cutting the losing team some slack in a blowout is the same thing as deciding whether to call a last second foul that could affect which team wins based on which team is home and which is the visitor?
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Old Sun Aug 14, 2011, 08:32pm
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And rare for this site. Quite a few folks on this site are never wrong.
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Where did you find that?

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Ironically Felicia Grinter (the C official on this play) was one of my clinicians in Orlando, and actually mentioned to me that line of thinking that once the shot is blocked cleanly that contact on the follow through needs to be severe enough to cause true affect on the play.

In this case, the shot was capped and then, the flailing and so forth by Bird was to try and bait the call.

Good to see Felicia practice what she preaches!
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Old Mon Aug 15, 2011, 12:19am
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Does the fact that it was ruled correct make it any less debatable?
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Old Mon Aug 15, 2011, 12:37am
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Does the fact that it was ruled correct make it any less debatable?
You could debate how to call it at other levels. But it's obvious that the call in this game was made correctly.
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Old Mon Aug 15, 2011, 09:54am
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You could debate how to call it at other levels. But it's obvious that the call in this game was made correctly.
How is it any more obvious than it was before? It is a judgment call. The person who judged it to be correct is just another opinion.
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Old Mon Aug 15, 2011, 10:05am
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How is it any more obvious than it was before? It is a judgment call. The person who judged it to be correct is just another opinion.
Someone has to be the boss and have the final say. And I'm quite sure those WNBA officials have certain philosophies ingrained in them and when working WNBA games that's whose philosophies count.

Those same WNBA officials also work NCAA basketball and I'm quite sure if they work for a supervisor who wants that call made they will call a foul on that exact same play.
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How is it any more obvious than it was before? It is a judgment call. The person who judged it to be correct is just another opinion.
Maybe not just another opinion, but the only opinion that matters. Keep in mind none of these folks here opinion matters in this issue or call.

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Old Mon Aug 15, 2011, 12:04pm
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How is it any more obvious than it was before? It is a judgment call. The person who judged it to be correct is just another opinion.
You make it sound as if it's just another person giving their opinion on the play...
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Old Mon Aug 15, 2011, 09:52pm
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You make it sound as if it's just another person giving their opinion on the play...
It is just another person giving an opinion on the play. It just so happens that person has authority on the matter, but it is still just one opinion, nothing more.

Here, that person's opinion means no more than the opinion of anyone else.
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