Intentional or Not

[twocentsworth]

per the criteria the John Adams provided at the NCAA-M level....yep - intentional.

[tref]

Originally Posted by twocentsworth

per the criteria the John Adams provided at the NCAA-M level....yep - intentional.

Flagrant 1 this season.

[ref2coach]

"OH MY, Thats a TERRIBLE CALL," by the announcers

I agree with those focusing on the "first line" of the IF rule. IF from me.

[bob jenkins]

I refuse to answer the poll question because both given answers are correct.

[Mark Padgett]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

I refuse to answer the poll question because both given answers are correct.

Leave it up to Bob to come up with a play where you can actually "call it both ways".

[NCHSAA]

From Lead, common foul.

From Center, intentional.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

I refuse to answer the poll question because both given answers are correct.

it's an intentional foul and it's a personal foul. it's not a common foul.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

it's an intentional foul and it's a personal foul. it's not a common foul.

I think it was fairly apparent that the options were "intentional personal foul" and "common personal foul".

Most times when we say intentional foul, we're talking about a personal foul... and most times when we talk about personal fouls, we're talking about common fouls.

[tref]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

I think it was fairly apparent that the options were "intentional personal foul" and "common personal foul".

Most times when we say intentional foul, we're talking about a personal foul... and most times when we talk about personal fouls, we're talking about common fouls.

Unless the fouled player is trying or tapping for a goal.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by tref

Unless the fouled player is trying or tapping for a goal.

I said "most" times...not all the time.

And the point was that the poll, using "personal foul" and "intentional foul" was aquatically clear in the context of the video.

[tref]

True

The play we're currently discussing couldnt even be considered a common foul though.

[JRutledge]

Now that we have figured out the difference between an intentional foul and a common foul by definition, why is everyone calling this an IF? Are we calling it that way because of the result of the play or because the fouler grabbed with player with both arms? The reason I ask because I cannot tell the my last question the player did anything other than come from behind to make a play on the ball (that does not disqualify an IF BTW before someone gets into that discussion).

Peace

[tref]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Now that we have figured out the difference between an intentional foul and a common foul by definition, why is everyone calling this an IF?

The first & last sentence of the rule, for me.

[NCHSAA]

I used common in the sense of non intentional/flagrant. My apologies!

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by NCHSAA

I used common sense. My apologies!

You had better apologize. There is absolutely, positively, no place for common sense anywhere on the Forum.