Best and worst?

[Bad Zebra]

Worse: Boys 9U AAU national tournament game. Coach subs out a player, gets 6 inches from the kid's ear and starts SCREAMING at him. I'm at the table checking something as this is happening. I mention to the scorer "I'm glad my son doesn't play for that guy". Scorer, at some point repeats my comment to said coach who, in turn, seeks me out in the parking lot to convey his displeasure about my comment. Site admin confronts him and asks him to leave. Refuses...cops...yadda yadda...cited for trespassing, banned from remainder of tournament. Gotta love AAU.

[Kingsman1288]

Originally Posted by Bad Zebra

I mention to the scorer "I'm glad my son doesn't play for that guy". Scorer, at some point repeats my comment to said coach who, in turn, seeks me out in the parking lot to convey his displeasure about my comment.

That's exactly why I wouldn't say something like that during a game. You never know who will hear it or who they will repeat it to.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Kingsman1288

That's exactly why I wouldn't say something like that during a game. You never know who will hear it or who they will repeat it to.

Maybe, but I'd say the coach needed to hear it.

[bainsey]

I'm sure I've brought this up here before, but it's worth telling again...

Best thing: My second year, I'm assign to a middle school boys' game. This one is truly a lopsided affair, as it's 52-0 H, after three quarters. It was one of those games where V clearly did not know what they were doing out there.

The saving grace for V came when H broke the plane a second time, techincal foul. It was, and perhaps will always be, the only time I reported a T to the coach, and the actually thanked me for such a call. ("Anything you can do to help these guys!...") First free throw hit, place erupts from both contingents.

Worst thing: Same game, and it happened during pre-game. Three days prior, a student from H was fatally shot by his mother's boyfriend. (Not guilty by reason of insanity. Don't get me started.) Needless to say, the school had been reeling from this unspeakable act, and I was aware that the victim was a student at this school. Before the game, I ask the A.D. how everyone is faring.

"It's day three," he says, "so we're starting to get back to normal. But the toughest part about this -- other than dealing with Anthony's death -- is explaining to 12 and 13 year-olds that there are some things in life that are, indeed, final."

That will always stick with me.

[Kingsman1288]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

Maybe, but I'd say the coach needed to hear it.

He did, no argument there. Just not sure that I would say it to someone I don't know. Probably be something I save to say after the game with my partners.

[BillyMac]

Actually a series of similar bad games. When I first started officiating, I was assigned games for a boys high school age recreation league in a nearby town. These were kids who either were cut from the high school team, or chose not to play high school ball because of the academic, or behavior, demands of the coach. There were no adult coaches in this recreation league, the players "coached" themselves. Seldom were there parents in the stands. There was never anyone in "authority" at the site. The scorekeeper/timekeeper was a high school kid. There were only five teams in the league. To insure that each team played every week, one team was scheduled to play both the first, and the third game of the night. So what did these "two game" high school boys do between games? You guessed it, they retreated to the parking lot, and had a couple of drinks, and I'm not talking about Gatorade. The third game always turned into a technical foul filled contest, and games seldom reached a conclusion without a forfeit.

[Bad Zebra]

Originally Posted by Kingsman1288

He did, no argument there. Just not sure that I would say it to someone I don't know. Probably be something I save to say after the game with my partners.

In the years since the incident, I've thought about it alot. I have to admit I wished I'd said it directly to the coach. It definitely needed to be said. I handled it wrong but that's still no excuse for the way he handled it.

[Kingsman1288]

Originally Posted by Bad Zebra

In the years since the incident, I've thought about it alot. I have to admit I wished I'd said it directly to the coach. It definitely needed to be said. I handled it wrong but that's still no excuse for the way he handled it.

There is no excuse for what he did at all. I didn't mean to imply differently.

[stir22]

The worst were two calls I had back. One was a foul where the kid was trying to block a shot from the 3 point line- he clearly was going for the player. I didn't call an intentional; to be totally honest, at the time it didn't occur to me. (3rd year, relative newby...) But, in retrospect it was a clear intentional foul. The other one was the stupidest call I have ever made- team control, girl in the paint. Blew the whistle, froze on my mechanics...I just wanted to disappear into the floor.

Both calls I will remember forever, and use as learning tools. A tool to not be a tool, because I was a tool with both calls.

The best was the last game of the high school season. Everything went very smoothly, overtime game, intra-state rivals. JV game. The varsity guys were their watching and complemented my partner and I.

Also did my first two varsity games this last year. That was pretty cool!!!

[Amesman]

Originally Posted by Bad Zebra

Worse: Boys 9U AAU national tournament game. Coach subs out a player, gets 6 inches from the kid's ear and starts SCREAMING at him.

Curious how this might play out under NFHS. We can whack for foul language from coach to his own player, but where's your line for something prolonged / humiliating / if not nearly physical? Granted, you don't go there lightly or worry about coaching tactics, but where's the point when an over-the-top coach (who probably would hear it from his A.D. and/or parents later) is served T for non-profane berating of his own player? I didn't see anything after a quick (very quick) look in the rule and case books.

[APG]

Originally Posted by Amesman

Curious how this might play out under NFHS. We can whack for foul language from coach to his own player, but where's your line for something prolonged / humiliating / if not nearly physical? Granted, you don't go there lightly or worry about coaching tactics, but where's the point when an over-the-top coach (who probably would hear it from his A.D. and/or parents later) is served T for non-profane berating of his own player? I didn't see anything after a quick (very quick) look in the rule and case books.

You can always hand out a technical foul for unsporting conduct...remember the rule lists some examples but it's not an exhaustive list. It's up to you and your assignor to draw the line.

[tref]

Other than directing profane or inappropriate language to his players in a loud manner, I'm minding my own business.

[refprof]

Originally Posted by Bad Zebra

Worse: Boys 9U AAU national tournament game. Coach subs out a player, gets 6 inches from the kid's ear and starts SCREAMING at him. I'm at the table checking something as this is happening. I mention to the scorer "I'm glad my son doesn't play for that guy". Scorer, at some point repeats my comment to said coach who, in turn, seeks me out in the parking lot to convey his displeasure about my comment. Site admin confronts him and asks him to leave. Refuses...cops...yadda yadda...cited for trespassing, banned from remainder of tournament. Gotta love AAU.

Easy fix.

T for un-sportsmanlike conduct.

RP