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Old Wed Jun 22, 2011, 03:08pm
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I hear you tomegun. I'm not here to "tell" anybody what they should do, just discussion.
We discuss rules, plays & management of the game often. Rarely do we discuss positioning & more importantly "why" we do what we do.

Difference of opinions on how to work the slot has confused me over the last couple years. So I thought I would see how differently forum members worked the position. Nothing more, nothing less.

Can the slot who has 6 players in transition ever be stacked? Sometimes.

Block/charge at the division line far side... what is T looking at? And the slot should be open & available to assist if need be. A T&T perhaps but we all know how to close on those must haves.
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Old Wed Jun 22, 2011, 03:36pm
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T is looking at the offensive player's backside - stacked most of the time.
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Old Wed Jun 22, 2011, 03:45pm
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Well IMO those are just bad basic fundamentals tomegun. We should position adjust to obtain/maintain open looks. We move to improve by using "2 & 2" to achieve this as T.
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Old Wed Jun 22, 2011, 04:12pm
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Go where you need to go to officiate the play or players. This is not a one size fits all answer anyway. Sometimes you are behind, sometimes you were with them. It really depends on what is happening with the ball and how much pressure is in the backcourt. Do not over complicate this.

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Old Wed Jun 22, 2011, 04:14pm
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Well IMO those are just bad basic fundamentals tomegun. We should position adjust to obtain/maintain open looks. We move to improve by using "2 & 2" to achieve this as T.
Cliche much?
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Old Wed Jun 22, 2011, 07:16pm
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Well IMO those are just bad basic fundamentals tomegun. We should position adjust to obtain/maintain open looks. We move to improve by using "2 & 2" to achieve this as T.

Really? A1, because of pressure from B1, throws a 20ft pass to the division line, along the Trail's sideline, to A2 who immediately turns and crashes with B2.

You're saying the Trail should have morphed up court to see the play?

Do you think a Center official who ran up ahead of the pack will now be able to look back through the pack to see the crash?
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Old Thu Jun 23, 2011, 01:36am
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if everyone in the rotation is on top of things the three man transition mechanics cover the court well enough if you use your brain and get good angles while your getting down the court a "crash" will be officiated.................................im not directing this at badnews just everyone MYSELF included
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Old Thu Jun 23, 2011, 01:52am
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if everyone in the rotation is on top of things the three man transition mechanics cover the court well enough if you use your brain and get good angles while your getting down the court a "crash" will be officiated.................................im not directing this at badnews just everyone MYSELF included
I don't even know what this is suppose to mean as it relates to the thread...
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Old Thu Jun 23, 2011, 02:09am
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I don't even know what this is suppose to mean as it relates to the thread...
I am glad it was not just me.

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Old Thu Jun 23, 2011, 07:51am
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Really? A1, because of pressure from B1, throws a 20ft pass to the division line, along the Trail's sideline, to A2 who immediately turns and crashes with B2.

You're saying the Trail should have morphed up court to see the play?

Do you think a Center official who ran up ahead of the pack will now be able to look back through the pack to see the crash?
Right. Or A2 catches the ball right near the division line and (perhaps) steps over it or passes the ball to someone who is coming from BC, or in the air coming from FC .... That call is the centers.

Maybe another way to put it. C needs to be in a position to work 2-man with L on a long pass and breakout, and work 2-man with T on any sort of press or pressure during the transition. And, be able to go from one to the other in short order.
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Old Thu Jun 23, 2011, 09:26am
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Really? A1, because of pressure from B1, throws a 20ft pass to the division line, along the Trail's sideline, to A2 who immediately turns and crashes with B2.

You're saying the Trail should have morphed up court to see the play?

Do you think a Center official who ran up ahead of the pack will now be able to look back through the pack to see the crash?
Okay, okay you changed the scenario on me, now its block/charge on an outlet pass.
I did lead off with no absolutes or always...

Of course we have to have a feel for what may happen "next" & be in position to make the call. Reading a step ahead is what I try to accomplish.

In the new sitch, when A1 gets possession I'm side stepping a couple times in the slot as I read the play. I'm NEVER said A gets the rebound & I'm gone like a L. I see the pressure by B1 then I'm looking to the bench for a t/o & I'm most definitely gonna notice A2 curling back to the division line for an outlet pass. 8 players headed north & 2 players in reverse is a red-flag for me.
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