Ball Bounces Back Up Off of Net

[KCRef]

Last night I saw a ball go completely thru the rim, then bounce off the bottom of the net and come back up and out of the basket. I think there were some torn strands in the net, so it allowed this to happen. Do I count the basket? We did.

Rule 5.1.1 states: A goal is made when a live ball enters the basket from above and remains in or passes through.

[grunewar]

Well, did it pass through?

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by grunewar

Well, did it pass through?

Plus, see the definition of Basket (it used to be in the definitions section; now I think it's in the Equipment section)

[Nevadaref]

This has happened numerous times in NCAA games which were televised. You can search the Internet for clips. The ruling hasn't changed.

I won't spoil what the first two respondents are trying to teach you by having you do the rules research yourself.

Here is a recent video from an NCAA game between Kansas and Kansas State for you: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQiRh...eature=related

[KCRef]

Thank you for letting me try this on my own, but I had already looked and couldn't find anything conclusive.

grunewar: Yes, the ball "passed thru the basket", but then it went back thru on it's way up.

bob jenkins: Section 4 does not have a basket definition. Section 1 does, but it only talks about how the basket should look.

Nevadaref: The KU v KSU video referenced above shows what I am asking about, but it did not show what the ruling was, or if it was correct.

Does anyone have a newer electronic version of the rule book? I got the 2006 one from BktBallRef back then. I have all the newer ones in paper form from the NF, but really mostly use the electronic version.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by KCRef

bob jenkins: Section 4 does not have a basket definition. Section 1 does, but it only talks about how the basket should look.

Somewhere there's a statement to the effect that "the basket includes the ring, flange and net"

Did the ball really pass through the net in your play, or just through the ring?

[Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.]

I remember watching a Big 10 Men's game years and years ago, where a Wisconsin player through down a two-handed dunk, the ball got caught up in the net and was flung back up through the rim and out of the basket. I remember that there was no score and play continued as if it was a missed shot.

MTD, Sr.

[hoopguy]

What about the play where the player dunks the ball and the ball passes through the ring but the player has jumped so high that his head is in the net and the ball bounces off his head and back out of the basket? The dunking exception to BI refers to hands on or in ring so I am unsure if the head in the net would apply.

I have seen this play in NBA bloopers. I think it was Barkley.

[26 Year Gap]

Originally Posted by hoopguy

What about the play where the player dunks the ball and the ball passes through the ring but the player has jumped so high that his head is in the net and the ball bounces off his head and back out of the basket? The dunking exception to BI refers to hands on or in ring so I am unsure if the head in the net would apply.

I have seen this play in NBA bloopers. I think it was Barkley.

Sounds like something Canseco would have done.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by 26 Year Gap

Sounds like something Canseco would have done.

[rsl]

The definition of basket:

1-10-1

Each basket shall consist of a single metal ring, 18 inches in inside diameter, its flange and braces, and a white-cord 12-mesh net, 15 to 18 inches in length, suspended from beneath the ring.