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Old Tue May 31, 2011, 12:32pm
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I think you're completely misreading Mark here.

The rec league rents gym space from middle schools.
The high school AD has asked the league to choose different dates so more students might attend varsity games.
The high school AD has political pull with the middle schools that could adversely affect the rec league if they choose not to comply with the high school AD's request.

This has nothing to do with ms facility availability; it's all about the HS AD wanting fewer entertainment alternatives to his varsity games on Friday night.
OK, unless the league owns the facility, they are at the mercy of the school. No different than the local official's associations in my area that hold meetings and classes at the local HS schools and we are at the mercy of those schools and their needs or we find another school that can accommodate what we want. I am not saying he cannot be disappointed, but if the AD wants to hold games on other nights, that is their right to do just that. And if that eliminates kids to participate, then that is just what you will have to deal with. Just saying that the AD does not have to care or should care what a local league does unless he/she values that league so much that he gives them what they want. But that is not always the case and not much different than what our associations have had to deal with when we meet at schools.

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Old Tue May 31, 2011, 12:43pm
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OK, unless the league owns the facility, they are at the mercy of the school. No different than the local official's associations in my area that hold meetings and classes at the local HS schools and we are at the mercy of those schools and their needs or we find another school that can accommodate what we want. I am not saying he cannot be disappointed, but if the AD wants to hold games on other nights, that is their right to do just that. And if that eliminates kids to participate, then that is just what you will have to deal with. Just saying that the AD does not have to care or should care what a local league does unless he/she values that league so much that he gives them what they want. But that is not always the case and not much different than what our associations have had to deal with when we meet at schools.

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The HS AD is asking Mark's league to move their games (which are not played in his facility) to another night. You're right, the AD shouldn't care, but he apparently does.

I would say Mark's league shouldn't care what the AD wants, they aren't using his gym. OTOH, the AD apparently could tell the MS AD's to be less accomodating to Mark's leage. Not due to any facility conflict, but because the AD is blaming the rec league for lower-than-expected attendance numbers at Friday night varsity games.

Normally, I wouldn't have an issue with accomodating the AD, but according to Mark, a change in schedule would negatively affect the league.
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Old Tue May 31, 2011, 12:53pm
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The HS AD is asking Mark's league to move their games (which are not played in his facility) to another night. You're right, the AD shouldn't care, but he apparently does.
I was under the impression that the AD has some control over the facility that Mark's league played at? Maybe I misunderstood that, but that seems to be the case if they do not get along or come to some agreement they have no place to play at the time. Mark made it seem if they do not “play nice” that they would be a$$ out. This is sometimes the case here and even more the case with the smaller schools if they are in the same school district.

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I would say Mark's league shouldn't care what the AD wants, they aren't using his gym. OTOH, the AD apparently could tell the MS AD's to be less accomodating to Mark's leage. Not due to any facility conflict, but because the AD is blaming the rec league for lower-than-expected attendance numbers at Friday night varsity games.

Normally, I wouldn't have an issue with accomodating the AD, but according to Mark, a change in schedule would negatively affect the league.
I agree if you do not have to listen to the AD, but it seems like he has some pull in that area and you do not want to fight someone improperly that might pull the league's ability to hold games when they wish. We complain about politics, this is the real politics that people with schools often have to deal with.

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I was under the impression that the AD has some control over the facility that Mark's league played at? Maybe I misunderstood that, but that seems to be the case if they do not get along or come to some agreement they have no place to play at the time. Mark made it seem if they do not “play nice” that they would be a$$ out. This is sometimes the case here and even more the case with the smaller schools if they are in the same school district.



I agree if you do not have to listen to the AD, but it seems like he has some pull in that area and you do not want to fight someone improperly that might pull the league's ability to hold games when they wish. We complain about politics, this is the real politics that people with schools often have to deal with.

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Ok, I see where you're headed. It seems the AD's control is "unofficial" and political.

You're right, whether people like it or not, it's the way it is a lot of places.

Like I said, I'd approach the AD, let him know both the hardship it would impose and the limited benefit it would give him and also try and feel out whether he would pull the proverbial trigger. It's possible Mark is afraid of something that wouldn't happen.
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