Jason Kidd travel?

[JRutledge]

And if they had called a technical foul after a travel then they would have suggested the official was overstepping their bounds or authority.

Peace

[Raymond]

There is no doubt that this would have to be called a travel in NFHS and NCAA. I just believe that the NBA doesn't want this to be a travel in their game. And it's not like Lebron James or Dwayne Wade or Dominique Wilkens have done the same thing without getting called.

[MrPlywood]

LOL - Kidd is hopping around like he's walking on hot coals. The NBA is turning into the And-1 Mix Tape Tour...

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

I just believe that the NBA doesn't want this to be a travel in their game.

I agree. And I think that's bull. And the arguments that this could not be seen in real time and/or it was not "blatantly obvious enough" are.....

[just another ref]

".........you lose sight of the traveling violation that constantly occurs."

Mark Jackson

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

There is no doubt that this would have to be called a travel in NFHS and NCAA. I just believe that the NBA doesn't want this to be a travel in their game. And it's not like Lebron James or Dwayne Wade or Dominique Wilkens have done the same thing without getting called.

There is no doubt that it would be called a travel less than half the time in the NFHS and NCAA. I doubt many officials would be able to tell from the trail position (which is the official covering the play) that Kidd's left foot moved at all. And of those that could tell, the confidence in being correct would be marginal enough that many would pass on it.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

There is no doubt that it would be called a travel less than half the time in the NFHS and NCAA. I doubt many officials would be able to tell from the trail position (which is the official covering the play) that Kidd's left foot moved at all. And of those that could tell, the confidence in being correct would be marginal enough that many would pass on it.

I agree. Many obvious travels are passed on at those levels and we act like the NBA just passes on these by practice.

Peace

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

There is no doubt that it would be called a travel less than half the time in the NFHS and NCAA. I doubt many officials would be able to tell from the trail position (which is the official covering the play) that Kidd's left foot moved at all. And of those that could tell, the confidence in being correct would be marginal enough that many would pass on it.

I don't see what's so hard to see in this particular play.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

I don't see what's so hard to see in this particular play.

It's not so hard in slow motion or from the perfect angle. But the official was NOT in nearly such a good position to see it and only had live action to catch it. That is not nearly as easy.

[Jay R]

I would like to change the direction of the discussion a bit. By rule,when a player jumps he should be allowed to land on the spot that no player occupied when he left the floor. Dwayne Wade was going to fly past Kidd on this play; Kidd jumps sideways to draw the contact. Could this not be interpreted as an offensive foul? I have seen NBA officials call an offensive foul when a jump shooter sticks out his leg to contact the defender. This actually seems to be more obvious. Any comments?

[tomegun]

I bet Mark Jackson is done being critical of any officiating (not saying he does it a lot) while on the mic. It isn't in his best interest. On the other hand, he should say what he wants now while it is still free.

[APG]

Originally Posted by Jay R

I would like to change the direction of the discussion a bit. By rule,when a player jumps he should be allowed to land on the spot that no player occupied when he left the floor. Dwayne Wade was going to fly past Kidd on this play; Kidd jumps sideways to draw the contact. Could this not be interpreted as an offensive foul? I have seen NBA officials call an offensive foul when a jump shooter sticks out his leg to contact the defender. This actually seems to be more obvious. Any comments?

I think on this play, Wade would have made contact with Kidd regardless. An offensive foul can be called on a offensive player who makes an overt movement on a defender when it's clear that the player's path would have taken him clear of the offensive player. I remember during the 2008 NBA Finals, this very call was made on Paul Pierce for jumping into the path of a defender who jumped clear to the side of him.

You see this call every now and then during the season (I've seen it a couple of times this season), but for the most part, defenders don't really contest shots where they end up going beside the shooter.

[just another ref]

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