Jason Kidd travel?

[Raymond]

I'm confident these 2 occasions aren't the first time Jason Kidd or any other player has made this move to get off a shot. I would say the NBA apparently doesn't want this to be called a travel (or maybe it isn't even a travel based on the NBA rule book).

[APG]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

The last thing in the world we need to have is reviewable traveling calls.

There's a reason why I tell people to never listen to anything rules related when Jeff Van Gundy says it...

[MrPlywood]

Originally Posted by AllPurposeGamer

That was wasn't obvious in real time...no one saw that in real time. On this play, Wade was going to foul Kidd whether he super technically traveled or not.

Yesterday it was completely obvious in real time. It was not a "super-technical" travel whatever that means - it was a travel as defined in the rulebook.

[APG]

Originally Posted by MrPlywood

Yesterday it was completely obvious in real time. It was not a "super-technical" travel whatever that means - it was a travel as defined in the rulebook.

Nope, no one saw that in real time...none of the players saw it in real time, and I guarantee Scott Foster (the calling official either) didn't either. I said it was a super technical travel because it had to be seen on replay slowed down to be seen. It's already been mentioned that these kind of calls are to be clear and blatantly obvious in real time.

[APG]

Play in question from last night

[JRutledge]

And if they had called a technical foul after a travel then they would have suggested the official was overstepping their bounds or authority.

Peace

[Raymond]

There is no doubt that this would have to be called a travel in NFHS and NCAA. I just believe that the NBA doesn't want this to be a travel in their game. And it's not like Lebron James or Dwayne Wade or Dominique Wilkens have done the same thing without getting called.

[MrPlywood]

LOL - Kidd is hopping around like he's walking on hot coals. The NBA is turning into the And-1 Mix Tape Tour...

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

I just believe that the NBA doesn't want this to be a travel in their game.

I agree. And I think that's bull. And the arguments that this could not be seen in real time and/or it was not "blatantly obvious enough" are.....

[just another ref]

".........you lose sight of the traveling violation that constantly occurs."

Mark Jackson

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

There is no doubt that this would have to be called a travel in NFHS and NCAA. I just believe that the NBA doesn't want this to be a travel in their game. And it's not like Lebron James or Dwayne Wade or Dominique Wilkens have done the same thing without getting called.

There is no doubt that it would be called a travel less than half the time in the NFHS and NCAA. I doubt many officials would be able to tell from the trail position (which is the official covering the play) that Kidd's left foot moved at all. And of those that could tell, the confidence in being correct would be marginal enough that many would pass on it.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

There is no doubt that it would be called a travel less than half the time in the NFHS and NCAA. I doubt many officials would be able to tell from the trail position (which is the official covering the play) that Kidd's left foot moved at all. And of those that could tell, the confidence in being correct would be marginal enough that many would pass on it.

I agree. Many obvious travels are passed on at those levels and we act like the NBA just passes on these by practice.

Peace

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

There is no doubt that it would be called a travel less than half the time in the NFHS and NCAA. I doubt many officials would be able to tell from the trail position (which is the official covering the play) that Kidd's left foot moved at all. And of those that could tell, the confidence in being correct would be marginal enough that many would pass on it.

I don't see what's so hard to see in this particular play.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

I don't see what's so hard to see in this particular play.

It's not so hard in slow motion or from the perfect angle. But the official was NOT in nearly such a good position to see it and only had live action to catch it. That is not nearly as easy.

[Jay R]

I would like to change the direction of the discussion a bit. By rule,when a player jumps he should be allowed to land on the spot that no player occupied when he left the floor. Dwayne Wade was going to fly past Kidd on this play; Kidd jumps sideways to draw the contact. Could this not be interpreted as an offensive foul? I have seen NBA officials call an offensive foul when a jump shooter sticks out his leg to contact the defender. This actually seems to be more obvious. Any comments?