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coach2 Sat Jan 18, 2003 11:58am

Dribble to a basket and go for a layup they will block the shot.

If they foul you take freetrows!

Jurassic Referee Sat Jan 18, 2003 12:30pm

Re: Re: That's easy!
 
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Originally posted by BktBallRef
4-2-2
The ball becomes dead:
e. When any loose ball:
2. Is on the ground motionless and no player attempts to secure possession.



Tony,

I can't find the rule reference you have cited. Rule 4-2-2 refers to Alternate Possession and Arrow.



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Try a football rule book,Willie!

BktBallRef Sat Jan 18, 2003 06:19pm

Good catch, Woody!! :D

Jurassic Referee Sat Jan 18, 2003 09:36pm

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Originally posted by BktBallRef
Good catch, Woody!! :D
Nah,fair catch,Tony!

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Holding? Unsportsmanlike Conduct?

williebfree Sat Jan 18, 2003 11:27pm

Re: Re: Re: That's easy!
 
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Originally posted by Jurassic Referee
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Try a football rule book,Willie! [/B][/QUOTE]


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Isn't it interesting that some games a football rulebook would be more appropriate.

bluezebra Sun Jan 19, 2003 12:23am

"ART. 5 . . . Allow the game to develop into an action less contest. . .

Willie
How can you make this statement? The only error in his statement is the lack of a space between action and less, which hardly changes the meaning of the rule."

Actually, the error IS the space. The word is "actionless", which means no action. "Action less contest" means that the action has no contest.

Bob


williebfree Sun Jan 19, 2003 01:23am

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Originally posted by bluezebra
"ART. 5 . . . Allow the game to develop into an action less contest. . .

Willie
How can you make this statement? The only error in his statement is the lack of a space between action and less, which hardly changes the meaning of the rule."

Actually, the error IS the space. The word is "actionless", which means no action. "Action less contest" means that the action has no contest.

Bob

Bob-

I am not trying to be a "smart alec", just a literalist... and if we honestly examine the Rule you have cited, 10-1-5 we find that there is NOT a basis for calling a violation.
I agree, a verbal suggestion to "pick up the ball" should be adequate to solve this incident, but also acknowledge that there is not a rule that gives us the "authority" to declare a violation, unless you want to accept rule 2-3 as the "ultimate" authority.

Look again at 10-1-5 as it applies to my original posting...
Rule 10-1-5 (With comment to its applicability to the original situation)
... allow the game to develop into an actionless contest, this includes the following and similar acts:
a. When the clock is not running consuming a full minute through not being ready when it is time to start a half. My comment: (Not applicable)
b. delay the game by preventing the ball from being made promptly live or from being put into play. See 7-5-1 (Throw-in procedures) and 8-1-1 (Free Throw procedures) for the specific procedure to resume play following a time-out or the intermission between quarters. The procedure is used prior to charging a technical foul in these specific situations. My comment: (Not applicable)
c. Contact with the free thrower or a huddle of two or more players by either team prior to a free throw following the team warning for this delay. My comment: (Not applicable)
d. interfering with the ball following a goal after a team warning for this delay. My comment: (Not applicable)


Bottom Line: I am going to verbally direct the players to play the ball after a brief period of time.... 10-15 seconds max.


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