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RookieDude Fri Jan 17, 2003 11:06am

I'd probably do what willie did...except after awhile I'd yell to my partner, "Hey, Willie, have you got anyone touching the ball yet!" Maybe that would get someone to grab it, thus ending the half.
BTW,I too am impressed the clock official didn't start the clock improperly.

Otherwise, I like the "consent" rule Bob Jenkins quoted.

Dude

braboa Fri Jan 17, 2003 11:32am

re:
 
Couldn't you just blow the ball dead and end the half? Only a tap could score, and that really only could've happened if one of the players tapped in the missed FT.

williebfree Fri Jan 17, 2003 11:48am

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Originally posted by braboa
Couldn't you just blow the ball dead and end the half? Only a tap could score, and that really only could've happened if one of the players tapped in the missed FT.
It is interesting that you suggest this, because it was apparent to me that both coaches had effectively instructed their players during the TO that only a tap could score. Oddly, I believe this directly lead to their strange apathy.

The only other thought on this was that somehow the group, independently but in unison, somehow construed my process of administering the FT as a 1st of 2 shots. Unlikely though, I am brief and to the point, "One throw, play it when it hits."

Just plain strange karma :)

Andy Fri Jan 17, 2003 12:11pm

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Originally posted by williebfree
FINALLY, after about 10 seconds (which seemed like an eternity)
Might have been the longest .1 second in basketball history!:D

zebraman Fri Jan 17, 2003 12:20pm

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Bob's point here is well taken. Don't be a jurk about it, manage the game, get out of Dodge.
Is being a jurk anything like being a jerk? I don't think it's being a jerk to stand there waiting for the players to catch on. If it's a 5th grade game, I'd probably say, "the ball is live players - get to it!" In a varsity game, I don't think it's being a jerk to expect the players to resume play on their own.

Z

bigwhistle Fri Jan 17, 2003 02:00pm

Did anyone make it a point to complement the clock operator for being able to stop the clock with .1 left in the half? :D

williebfree Fri Jan 17, 2003 04:28pm

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Originally posted by bigwhistle
Did anyone make it a point to complement the clock operator for being able to stop the clock with .1 left in the half? :D
It is a double-edged sword... This timer's meticulous attention to detail and anal retentativeness would not allow him to even consider "just starting the clock" or holding off "killing the clock" for .1 of a second longer. I know this to be true from previous encounters, and "normally" that is a highly appreciated quality, just not in this particular circumstance.

OY! :D

Hawks Coach Fri Jan 17, 2003 04:58pm

I know some very meticulous timers who have amazingly slow fingers at the most appropriate of times. Those are the qualities I admire most - attention to detail while seeing the big picture.

Jurassic Referee Fri Jan 17, 2003 06:34pm

Very "tongue in cheek",Coach. You should have added that you"admired" them some of the time only.Not when you're the visiting team and it's the home timer displaying that trait.

Hawks Coach Fri Jan 17, 2003 06:53pm

Actually I am more serious than you think. We have some guys that will get everything right in a tight match-up, allowing the players to decide the game on the court. In a 20 point blowout, if it's even close, the quarter/half/game has ended, with a generous 1 second lag time.

In the ugly games, everyone wants to get out of there.

DownTownTonyBrown Fri Jan 17, 2003 07:53pm

Out-a-here
 
Instead of kicking OOB. Kick it so it hits a player and start the clock.

BktBallRef Fri Jan 17, 2003 11:23pm

That's easy!
 
4-2-2
The ball becomes dead:
e. When any loose ball:
2. Is on the ground motionless and no player attempts to secure possession.



Jurassic Referee Sat Jan 18, 2003 02:51am

Applies to kicked balls,too,doesn't it,Tony?:D

williebfree Sat Jan 18, 2003 08:46am

Re: That's easy!
 
Quote:

Originally posted by BktBallRef
4-2-2
The ball becomes dead:
e. When any loose ball:
2. Is on the ground motionless and no player attempts to secure possession.



Tony,

I can't find the rule reference you have cited. Rule 4-2-2 refers to Alternate Possession and Arrow.



RecRef Sat Jan 18, 2003 11:35am

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Originally posted by zebraman
Quote:

Bob's point here is well taken. Don't be a jurk about it, manage the game, get out of Dodge.
Is being a jurk anything like being a jerk? I don't think it's being a jerk to stand there waiting for the players to catch on. If it's a 5th grade game, I'd probably say, "the ball is live players - get to it!" In a varsity game, I don't think it's being a jerk to expect the players to resume play on their own.

Z

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