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Old Thu May 05, 2011, 01:07pm
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Although only a recommendation, the light blue, light gold, silver uniform color issue seems like the creation of a problem where there was none.

And instead of making sleeves legal or illegal, they took the worst of both worlds. Legal, but must comply with headband rules AND be medically necessary. I hope the guys on the committee pushing for these two items will not be on next year's committee.
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I feel like the NFHS sometimes is just trying to find editorial "changes" and "clarifications" to try and justify a yearly publication of the rules and case book. Who the hell is having trouble differentiating between white and light blue, silver, gold?

And the NFHS is busy at it again making use the freaking fashion police. Now in addition to having it for "medical" reasons, we get to make sure it's the correct color! A freaking joke.
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Old Thu May 05, 2011, 01:26pm
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I feel like the NFHS sometimes is just trying to find editorial "changes" and "clarifications" to try and justify a yearly publication of the rules and case book. Who the hell is having trouble differentiating between white and light blue, silver, gold?

And the NFHS is busy at it again making use the freaking fashion police. Now in addition to having it for "medical" reasons, we get to make sure it's the correct color! A freaking joke.
I'm guessing they've made this change so the restrictions are the same as for headbands. ie, no medical issue required.
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I feel like the NFHS sometimes is just trying to find editorial "changes" and "clarifications" to try and justify a yearly publication of the rules and case book. Who the hell is having trouble differentiating between white and light blue, silver, gold?

And the NFHS is busy at it again making use the freaking fashion police. Now in addition to having it for "medical" reasons, we get to make sure it's the correct color! A freaking joke.
Guys who shouldn't be on the court any longer?

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I'm guessing they've made this change so the restrictions are the same as for headbands. ie, no medical issue required.
If they did away with the medical reason, a joke to start with, I would be fine with the change. They just made a bad rule worse IMO.
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If they did away with the medical reason, a joke to start with, I would be fine with the change. They just made a bad rule worse IMO.
Blame AI, he isnt even in the League anymore, but he left his fashion statement with the game.
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Old Thu May 05, 2011, 01:34pm
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I'm guessing they've made this change so the restrictions are the same as for headbands. ie, no medical issue required.
I understand why they did it...but my general stance is that officials shouldn't give a flip what color a headband, arm sleeve, or undershirt is but rather this should be a coaches issues. The only thing we should care about is safety related items. Adding color restrictions to anything just makes us more into policing fashion.
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If they did away with the medical reason, a joke to start with, I would be fine with the change. They just made a bad rule worse IMO.
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I understand why they did it...but my general stance is that officials shouldn't give a flip what color a headband, arm sleeve, or undershirt is but rather this should be a coaches issues. The only thing we should care about is safety related items. Adding color restrictions to anything just makes us more into policing fashion.
I'm with 26, if they do away with the medical restriction, it's a change for the better. If not, it's for the worse.
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I'm with 26, if they do away with the medical restriction, it's a change for the better. If not, it's for the worse.
The change would only okay in that it would consistent with NF's other idiotic fashion police policies.
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The change would only okay in that it would consistent with NF's other idiotic fashion police policies.
Can we just agree that Patrick Ewing & AI, (didn't both go to the same school?), have made us focus on stuff that should have been un-necessary?

Coach to above players: "That looks dorky. Take it off or you've got extra laps."
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I'm with 26, if they do away with the medical restriction, it's a change for the better. If not, it's for the worse.
From the PDF file on the NFS Web site:

The specifications regarding arm compression sleeves were
changed to require the item to be white, black, beige or a
single solid school color, be the same color for each team
member and have only a single manufacturer’s logo that does
not exceed 2 ¼square inches. Arm compression sleeves
must still be worn for medical purposes
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Old Thu May 12, 2011, 12:21am
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Here is the text of the rule changes which PASSED for this coming year.
This wording comes from the NFHS rule proposal form, which was considered by the committee. It is not from a copy of the NEW 2011-12 rules book.
Underlining shows additions; strikethrough shows deletions.

1-3-1
ART. 1...A 2-inch wide restraining circle shall be drawn at the center of the court with a radius of 6 feet measured to the outside edge. The edge of the circle shall be designated with a minimum of a ¼-inch wide single line but no wider than 2 inches. See Table 1-1, No. 3 if the use of contrasting colored-floor areas instead of a line is desirable. Spaces for nonjumpers around the center circle are 36 inches deep.
Rationale: Many existing courts already have center circles that have a single ¼ -inch line. A mathematical line between two solid colors is also permitted in Table 1-1, Supplement to the Basketball Court, No. 3. This change would provide some consistency in the rule. Contrasting-colored language is consistent with the language used in 1-2-1. The permissive language in the Table 1-1, No. 3, get’s lost if not specifically referenced.





3-5-3 NEW
ART. 3…Arm compression sleeves shall:
a. Be white, black, beige or a single solid school color.
b. Be the same color for each team member.
c. Be worn for medical reasons.
d. Meet the logo requirements in 3-6.
Rationale: Currently the rules for compression sleeves are vague, they may be multiple colors and players may each wear a different color. This will provide clarification; make enforcement of the rule consistent and more definitive for officials. The medical reasons portion is consistent with the previous rule.





4-12
ART. 1…A player is in control of the ball when he/she is holding or dribbling a live ball inbounds.
ART. 2…A team is in control of the ball:
a. When a player of the team is in control
b. While a live ball is being passed between teammates
c. During an interrupted dribble
d. When a player of that team has disposal of the ball for a throw-in
ART. 6…Neither team control or player control exists during a dead ball, throw-in, a jump ball or when the ball is in flight during a try or tap for goal.
Rationale: By changing the definition of player and team control to include a throw-in, greater consistency in the penalty for a common foul is achieved. As the rule is currently written, because there is no team control during a throw-in the penalty for a common foul committed by the throw-in team after the throw-in has started could result in free throws if the offended team is in the bonus. This is not consistent with the penalty for a team-control foul. This change would result in greater consistency in the penalties for common fouls, eliminate any confusion on rule application and speed up the contest by eliminating the delay inherent with administering free throws.




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