Act of shooting - Page 3

Rich · #31 (**permalink**) Tue Jan 07, 2003, 08:44am

I don't get hung up on most double whistles. They happen, as many times contact happens close to the line dividing areas of responsibility.

Plus, to me it doesn't look bad if there are two officials with a fist in the air as long as the two officials handle what comes next properly.

This is where you have to make eye contact with your partner -- and if the play is going away from you let your partner take it to the table. Drop your fist once your partner heads to the table.

In 2-man mechanics, the lead official should take most fouls on a double whistle for 2 reasons:

(1) The play is coming towards the official and this has always been fairly standard 2-man mechanics.

(2) It forces the switch, which if you are following NFHS mechanics you are required to do anyway. So lead comes out and reports while the trail gets in position and observes the players.

Sometimes when I'm working with an unfamiliar partner and this situation happens I'll even take a step forward and say, "You have it." If I'm the lead and this situation happens, I'll start heading to the table unless my partner has already turned to report.

There's nothing I hate more than a partner calling something right in front of my face (happened Friday -- I was lead and the 2 players were three feet in front of me and my partner called a nothing foul from trail across the court) but if the play happens near the division (or even in the lane) I'm not going to get upset.

Rich

ROMANO · #32 (**permalink**) Wed Jan 08, 2003, 01:50am

Bob
We officiat in israel 2 refrees in each game.
The foul was in area 5 near the basket.i was standing right, in a good place.

ROMANO · #33 (**permalink**) Wed Jan 08, 2003, 02:15am

Rich
It's make my upset when my partner's call should be only my call when i'm standing in the right position.but this things happend in all over the world (as i can see at you'r situation Rich)from the FIBA RULES BOOK:"NEITHER OFFICIAL SHALL HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO DISREGARD OR QUESTION THE DECISIONS MADE BY THE OTHER REFREE"....

canuckrefguy · #34 (**permalink**) Wed Jan 08, 2003, 02:52am

Rich is right, don't get too hung up on this one.

I didn't mean to make it sound like a MAJOR flaw, because it wasn't. I just wanted to make sure you knew that you were right to take the call.

We all blow out of our area from time to time (I can think of one from my HS Varsity game tonight). Even Rich and the other seasoned vets can probably think of a recent personal example (or maybe not, I get the impression those guys are pretty darn good).

The key is how we handle these situations. In your case, you and your partner handled it the right way.

Now go have fun your next game...and don't forget to talk about double-whistles in your pre-game!

ROMANO · #35 (**permalink**) Wed Jan 08, 2003, 03:10am

O.K
LET'S go and have some fun....
This is why i'm saying :;no call is the best call..sometimes"..

[Edited by ROMANO on Jan 8th, 2003 at 07:10 AM]

Nevadaref · #36 (**permalink**) Wed Jan 08, 2003, 07:11am

Quote:

Originally posted by ChuckElias
For the Fed ruling, see casebook play 4.19.7C.
Chuck

Sadly this casebook play does not tell us whether or not the team that was just scored upon may run the endline if they receive the AP throw-in. I would let them.

ROMANO · #37 (**permalink**) Wed Jan 08, 2003, 08:11am

Sorry
but what are you talking about?

ChuckElias · #38 (**permalink**) Wed Jan 08, 2003, 08:42am

Quote:

Originally posted by Nevadaref
Sadly this casebook play does not tell us whether or not the team that was just scored upon may run the endline if they receive the AP throw-in. I would let them.

I believe that anytime there is a made or awarded score, the team entitled to the ball has the privilege of running the endline. Is there any exception to this?

Chuck

canuckrefguy · #39 (**permalink**) Wed Jan 08, 2003, 01:14pm

I think in this case, ROMANO called an offensive foul, disallowed the basket....and although his partner called a block, they went with the charge.

In this case, no endline, I think.

As for exceptions, can't think of any off the top of my head.

ChuckElias · #40 (**permalink**) Wed Jan 08, 2003, 02:14pm

Quote:

Originally posted by canuckrefguy
I think in this case, ROMANO called an offensive foul, disallowed the basket....and although his partner called a block, they went with the charge.

In this case, no endline, I think.

Ok, if that's what happened in the original case, that's fine. But the situation that I quoted specifically said that the points had been scored. That's why I gave the answer I did.