Another throw in question

[k2explorer]

Hi all,

I had a situation where A1 had the ball for a spot throw-in on the side. She wanted to throw the ball up the court, so she threw the ball, it landed on the out of bounds line before going to A2. I blew the whistle for a violation and awarded the ball to B. The coach questioned me and I said it hit the line. He was puzzled. The other ref, who is a veteran, also questioned me and said I was wrong to do that.

I couldn't find anything in the rules but it says the ball has to be thrown directly into the court. This was NOT directly into the court.

How wrong was I???

[Jurassic Referee]

You weren't wrong. You were completely right.Rule 9-2-2.

Welcome to the board.

[Jay R]

Fuuny, had the same sitch not long ago and one of the players questioned the call.

Went to the rule book to make sure when I got home. You got it right.

[firedoc]

Simple situation and simple answer. Correct Call!!

[Rich]

It's an easy call when you realize what you've got: A throw-in that was thrown out of bounds.

Violation and a throw-in at the spot of the violation, which is the spot of the original throw-in.

Rich

[4 Sport Official]

"Thrower A1 attempts deception by : (a) causing the ball to carom from the wall behind him/her, or from the floor out of bounds and then into the court..."

Ruling : Violation in (a), since the throw did not go directly inbounds.

[dblref]

Originally posted by Rich Fronheiser
It's an easy call when you realize what you've got: A throw-in that was thrown out of bounds.

Violation and a throw-in at the spot of the violation, which is the spot of the original throw-in.

Rich

Believe the throw-in would be where the ball hit the side line -- that is where the violation actually occured --rather than the spot of the original throw-in.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally posted by dblref
[/B]

Believe the throw-in would be where the ball hit the side line -- that is where the violation actually occured --rather than the spot of the original throw-in.
[/B][/QUOTE]If you have the ball OOB after a basket and you throw it the length of the court,and it:
1)hits the end line at the other end before being touched.
2)hits the wall OOB at the other end in the air.
Then,you would have both throw-ins at the other end of the court?

[Tom Cook]

dblref. I think that the ball was thrown from out-of-bounds to out-of-bounds without being touched by anyone else. The ball goes to B at the original throw-in spot.

[Nevadaref]

From the description, I believe that the play met the requirement that the ball be thrown directly into the court, since it seems like it passed over it. But the thrower violated because the pass went untouched by another player. That is the second part of that article and is super important. This is the part that tells us that the violation was by the thrower and thus the next throw-in will take place at the spot where he was.

[fletch_irwin_m]

Just to throw a what if in to the discussion:
A1 throws the ball to A2 who is standing in bounds but has the hands reaching out of bounds to receive the ball.

[Jake80]

Originally posted by fletch_irwin_m
Just to throw a what if in to the discussion:
A1 throws the ball to A2 who is standing in bounds but has the hands reaching out of bounds to receive the ball.

This is also a violation. I believe the rule is (NFHS) 9-2-3. A player shall not "pass the ball so it is touched by a teammate while the ball is on the out-of-bounds side of the throw-in boundary-line plane"

[Troward]

What if the ball was live in play and A1 on offense dribbles into the corner and then leans over the OB line and throws a pass accross the lane in the air out of bounds to A2 is has his arms fully extended and reaching out in the air over the ob line for the catch. Is this a legal play as the ball and players never touch the Out of bounds they are just making the pass and catch leaning over the line?

[williebfree]

This is a legal play because the ball is inbounds until it contacts something OOB. "Reaching through" the boundary plane is not a violation since the ball is already legally in play.

The key to the violation above is the throw-in status of the ball.

[Edited by williebfree on Jan 2nd, 2003 at 01:03 PM]