NBA or NWBA?

Mark Padgett · #1 (**permalink**) Sun Apr 17, 2011, 05:16pm

I know we usually refer to the NBA here as the NBE, but after watching some of the playoff games over the last few days, I suggest we call it the NWBA, which stands for the "National Whiney Babies Association". I've never seen so many whiney reactions for foul calls. And it's "both ways", complaining when a foul is called against them, and complaining when a foul isn't called against an opponent. I know this happens all the time, but it seems to be even worse so far in this year's playoffs.

As usual, Kobe seems to be leading the pack. I think he complained that a foul wasn't called against a opponent out in the parking lot before the game.

The league should issue crying towels. These guys are acting like 3rd graders. Oh wait - 3rd graders are actually more mature.

APG · #2 (**permalink**) Sun Apr 17, 2011, 05:20pm

Players whine in all professional sports. We're just able to see and hear the actual whining and there are a lot more calls made in a basketball game.

JRutledge · #3 (**permalink**) Sun Apr 17, 2011, 06:05pm

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Originally Posted by AllPurposeGamer

Players whine in all professional sports. We're just able to see and hear the actual whining and there are a lot more calls made in a basketball game.

Yep. Baseball players whine when you do not call the right pitch in their mind and anytime a pass is thrown in the NFL that is defended the receivers go looking for the flag. Welcome to pro sports.

Peace

APG · #4 (**permalink**) Sun Apr 17, 2011, 06:13pm

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Originally Posted by JRutledge

Yep. Baseball players whine when you do not call the right pitch in their mind and anytime a pass is thrown in the NFL that is defended the receivers go looking for the flag. Welcome to pro sports.

Peace

Yup...another difference is we don't see the players' faces in the NFL and IMO it doesn't have quite the same effect when you don't see the player's facial reactions. NFL players whine all the time looking for OPI or whine when DPI is called. They'll point and gyrate when they think an offensive linemen as moved. Defenders will b**ch and moan for holding calls. Difference is we don't get to see it all since action is occurring downfield and we don't hear a lot of it since it occurs in the middle of the field....add to that not having as many calls as the NBA.

The fact is professional sports allow their athletes to interact with the officials a lot more than we do at the amateur level and I have no problem with it. I would say what we don't allow at the amateur level, we allow the coach's to get away with in spades (well at least at NCAA D-I level).

Raymond · #5 (**permalink**) Sun Apr 17, 2011, 06:15pm

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Originally Posted by AllPurposeGamer

Yup...another difference is we don't see the players' faces in the NFL and IMO it doesn't have quite the same effect when you don't see the player's facial reactions. NFL players whine all the time ...

All you have to do is watch a game involving Donovan McNabb. I'm an Eagles fan and it used to irritate the hell out of me how much begged for flags.

APG · #6 (**permalink**) Sun Apr 17, 2011, 06:19pm

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Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

All you have to do is watch a game involving Donovan McNabb. I'm an Eagles fan and it used to irritate the hell out of me how much begged for flags.

I'm an Eagles fan as well.

A long suffering one!

JRutledge · #7 (**permalink**) Sun Apr 17, 2011, 06:23pm

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Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

All you have to do is watch a game involving Donovan McNabb. I'm an Eagles fan and it used to irritate the hell out of me how much begged for flags.

Not a Bears fan but I see most of their games because of where I live and every game Jay Cutler is complaining about some call they did not get. Often times he is yelling at the wrong official that would make the call. I believe this past year he got about two USC flags for going over the top on plays he thought should have gotten a flag.

Peace

Adam · #8 (**permalink**) Sun Apr 17, 2011, 06:14pm

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Originally Posted by JRutledge

Yep. Baseball players whine when you do not call the right pitch in their mind and anytime a pass is thrown in the NFL that is defended the receivers go looking for the flag. Welcome to pro sports.

Peace

Yep, and in 6 months we'll be talking about the MLB players whining. Three months later it'll be about NFL stars who think their sh1t don't stink.

All_Heart · #9 (**permalink**) Mon Apr 18, 2011, 09:24am

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Originally Posted by Mark Padgett

I know we usually refer to the NBA here as the NBE, but after watching some of the playoff games over the last few days, I suggest we call it the NWBA, which stands for the "National Whiney Babies Association". I've never seen so many whiney reactions for foul calls. And it's "both ways", complaining when a foul is called against them, and complaining when a foul isn't called against an opponent. I know this happens all the time, but it seems to be even worse so far in this year's playoffs.

As usual, Kobe seems to be leading the pack. I think he complained that a foul wasn't called against a opponent out in the parking lot before the game.

The league should issue crying towels. These guys are acting like 3rd graders. Oh wait - 3rd graders are actually more mature.

Complaining about their complaining......

J.K. It drives me absolutely insane watching the prima donnas!! It unfortunately has caused me to watch less NBA and more college. Duncan has always driven me crazy with his dumbfounded "I've never made contact with another player in my entire playing career" face.

Speaking of complaining: Nobody likes complainers, but this is going a tad too far | NBA.com

The Wall Street Journal tracked the complaining in last year's finals

Who Complains About Fouls More: The Lakers or the Celtics? - WSJ.com

JugglingReferee · #10 (**permalink**) Mon Apr 18, 2011, 09:37am

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Originally Posted by Mark Padgett

I know we usually refer to the NBA here as the NBE, but after watching some of the playoff games over the last few days, I suggest we call it the NWBA, which stands for the "National Whiney Babies Association". I've never seen so many whiney reactions for foul calls. And it's "both ways", complaining when a foul is called against them, and complaining when a foul isn't called against an opponent. I know this happens all the time, but it seems to be even worse so far in this year's playoffs.

As usual, Kobe seems to be leading the pack. I think he complained that a foul wasn't called against a opponent out in the parking lot before the game.

The league should issue crying towels. These guys are acting like 3rd graders. Oh wait - 3rd graders are actually more mature.

I blame HD.

btaylor64 · #11 (**permalink**) Mon Apr 18, 2011, 12:01pm

The only thing I'm gonna say about this is it really doesn't seem that bad when you are actually on the floor reffing because they react and after that we are on to watching the next thing or thinking about something else. Since the higher attention to the "respect for the game" guidelines this year I personally feel the complaining, at least directed directly toward the officials has decreased. JMO and perspective.

Welpe · #12 (**permalink**) Mon Apr 18, 2011, 01:17pm

Then there's Sidney Crosby and Sean Avery...

Adam · #13 (**permalink**) Mon Apr 18, 2011, 01:21pm

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Originally Posted by btaylor64

The only thing I'm gonna say about this is it really doesn't seem that bad when you are actually on the floor reffing because they react and after that we are on to watching the next thing or thinking about something else. Since the higher attention to the "respect for the game" guidelines this year I personally feel the complaining, at least directed directly toward the officials has decreased. JMO and perspective.

Fair enough points, but I'll just add that it seems worse to us amrefs who work with the kids and coaches who are watching these knuckleheads.

JRutledge · #14 (**permalink**) Mon Apr 18, 2011, 02:11pm

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Originally Posted by Snaqwells

Fair enough points, but I'll just add that it seems worse to us amrefs who work with the kids and coaches who are watching these knuckleheads.

There is an easy way to nip that in the bud. I personally do not care what they see if they are too stupid to realize they do not make those checks the players they are watching.

Peace

Adam · #15 (**permalink**) Mon Apr 18, 2011, 02:20pm

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Originally Posted by JRutledge

There is an easy way to nip that in the bud. I personally do not care what they see if they are too stupid to realize they do not make those checks the players they are watching.

Peace

Yeah, but it's annoying. I can and do deal with it, I'd just rather not have to. Even at the JV level, the coaches pretty much know they can't do it, and the kids are coached to play.

I do enjoy the fans' cries when I deal with a rogue player or coach, though. "You can't give him a T for that!"