NBA or NWBA?

btaylor64 · #1 (**permalink**) Mon Apr 18, 2011, 12:01pm

The only thing I'm gonna say about this is it really doesn't seem that bad when you are actually on the floor reffing because they react and after that we are on to watching the next thing or thinking about something else. Since the higher attention to the "respect for the game" guidelines this year I personally feel the complaining, at least directed directly toward the officials has decreased. JMO and perspective.

Welpe · #2 (**permalink**) Mon Apr 18, 2011, 01:17pm

Then there's Sidney Crosby and Sean Avery...

Adam · #3 (**permalink**) Mon Apr 18, 2011, 01:21pm

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Originally Posted by btaylor64

The only thing I'm gonna say about this is it really doesn't seem that bad when you are actually on the floor reffing because they react and after that we are on to watching the next thing or thinking about something else. Since the higher attention to the "respect for the game" guidelines this year I personally feel the complaining, at least directed directly toward the officials has decreased. JMO and perspective.

Fair enough points, but I'll just add that it seems worse to us amrefs who work with the kids and coaches who are watching these knuckleheads.

JRutledge · #4 (**permalink**) Mon Apr 18, 2011, 02:11pm

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Fair enough points, but I'll just add that it seems worse to us amrefs who work with the kids and coaches who are watching these knuckleheads.

There is an easy way to nip that in the bud. I personally do not care what they see if they are too stupid to realize they do not make those checks the players they are watching.

Peace

Adam · #5 (**permalink**) Mon Apr 18, 2011, 02:20pm

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There is an easy way to nip that in the bud. I personally do not care what they see if they are too stupid to realize they do not make those checks the players they are watching.

Peace

Yeah, but it's annoying. I can and do deal with it, I'd just rather not have to. Even at the JV level, the coaches pretty much know they can't do it, and the kids are coached to play.

I do enjoy the fans' cries when I deal with a rogue player or coach, though. "You can't give him a T for that!"

JRutledge · #6 (**permalink**) Mon Apr 18, 2011, 02:33pm

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Originally Posted by Snaqwells

Yeah, but it's annoying. I can and do deal with it, I'd just rather not have to. Even at the JV level, the coaches pretty much know they can't do it, and the kids are coached to play.

I do enjoy the fans' cries when I deal with a rogue player or coach, though. "You can't give him a T for that!"

I have a few lines where I make it clear to a player or sometimes a coach, "You do realize this is not the NBA?" Many times that stops all comments or gyrations towards me or my partners. Actually I think most of this is not about pro sports, but it is about adults not setting boundaries with the children (which they are until they can go fight in a war in our military).

Peace

btaylor64 · #7 (**permalink**) Mon Apr 18, 2011, 06:46pm

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Yeah, but it's annoying. I can and do deal with it, I'd just rather not have to. Even at the JV level, the coaches pretty much know they can't do it, and the kids are coached to play.

I do enjoy the fans' cries when I deal with a rogue player or coach, though. "You can't give him a T for that!"

Well you just don't see it at those levels or even the D1 level because, those are still just kids and for a lack of a better term, the coaches "own" them. He has the power to do whatever he wants. If a player tries to mouth off to an official the coach can chew him up and down. At the pro level, these are grown MEN. They have a mind of their own and have an attitude and personality of their own. They don't have to conform their attitudes to that of what their coach wants. Coaches in the NBA wouldn't dare try to chew out a player in public, because more often than not he would lose that player forever. It is just a whole different ballgame. You don't have to just deal with 2 personalities (both coaches) such as in college, you have to deal with 12 personalities at one time and that takes a lot of focus and attention along with having to referee a solid, high paced, above the rim game. That's what makes it a lot tougher than other levels to me. And I also think it is sad, because the cameras don't show all the civil and nice calm interactions the players have with the referees and even the humorous ones from time to time. The only time they cut to a player is after a tough call and then it shows their reaction which looks like they are whining but sometimes they really aren't that bad and then sometimes they really are that bad!! haha

APG · #8 (**permalink**) Mon Apr 18, 2011, 06:55pm

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And I also think it is sad, because the cameras don't show all the civil and nice calm interactions the players have with the referees and even the humorous ones from time to time. The only time they cut to a player is after a tough call and then it shows their reaction which looks like they are whining but sometimes they really aren't that bad and then sometimes they really are that bad!! haha

Well duh...it doesn't make for good television if they showed positive interactions between coach/players and referee.

This reminds me a story Charles Barkley told one time where he told Dick Barvetta (I think), that he was going to make it appear as if he was chewing him out yet he was complementing him. Announcers were there really thinking Charles was giving Barvetta the business.