OT - Globetrotter insults entire state

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by bainsey

Few people would care enough to make a fuss.

The differences between these twin-named universities confuse me. Here in Connecticut, we have a very large, public university, the University of Connecticut (UCONN). We also have a very small, private college, Connecticut College. No one would ever confuse them. I am also aware that Pennsylvania has two universities, Pennsylvania State (Penn State), a very large, public university, and the University of Pennsylvania, a private, Ivy League university.

What's the story on other twin-named universities: Oregon, and Oregon State; Kansas, and Kansas State; North Carolina, and North Carolina State, etc.? Is it a matter of public, versus private, as it is in the examples I gave above, or is it something else?

[Mark Padgett]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

What's the story on other twin-named universities: Oregon, and Oregon State; Kansas, and Kansas State; North Carolina, and North Carolina State, etc.? Is it a matter of public, versus private, as it is in the examples I gave above, or is it something else?

I don't know the full story on Oregon and Oregon State, but both are large public universities. Oregon is in Eugene and Oregon State is in Corvallis. Oregon State started as an agricultural school and, I think, was originally called Oregon Agricultural College. Some Oregon fans still call the Oregon State teams the "Aggies" as a put down. The rivalry between the two schools is intense and Oregon also has a pretty big rivalry with the University of Washington. We also have Portland State University, a public school, and the University of Portland, a private religious-sponsored school.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by Mark Padgett

I don't know the full story on Oregon and Oregon State, but both are large public universities. Oregon is in Eugene and Oregon State is in Corvallis. Oregon State started as an agricultural school and, I think, was originally called Oregon Agricultural College. Some Oregon fans still call the Oregon State teams the "Aggies" as a put down. The rivalry between the two schools is intense and Oregon also has a pretty big rivalry with the University of Washington. We also have Portland State University, a public school, and the University of Portland, a private religious-sponsored school.

I think you''ll find that a lot of states have U of and State Univiersity....and that many of them follow that same heritage....agricultural and mechanical (vocational like) vs. the more broad university (physics, literature, psychology, etc).

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Mark Padgett

Oregon State started as an agricultural school and, I think, was originally called Oregon Agricultural College.

Interesting. The University of Connecticut (UCONN), the largest public university in the state, started as an agricultural college, and still has a very active agricultural department. When we're having trouble with pests in our gardens, or want our soil tested, UCONN has the expertise to help us out. They still have a very active farming department, with their own herd of dairy cows. They serve ice cream made from the milk of these cows at a diary bar on campus. It's the best ice cream in New England. Better than Ben and Jerry's.

[grunewar]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Interesting. The University of Connecticut (UCONN), the largest public university in the state, started as an agricultural college, and still has a very active agricultural department. When we're having trouble with pests in our gardens, or want our soil tested, UCONN has the expertise to help us out. They still have a very active farming department, with their own herd of dairy cows. They serve ice cream made from the milk of these cows at a diary bar on campus. It's the best ice cream in New England. Better than Ben and Jerry's.

Must be the northeast, as Penn State University has a similar program:

Most visitors to the Berkey Creamery at Penn State know only of its famous ice cream, sherbet, and cheeses sold at the store or over the Internet, but what they don't know is that it is the largest university creamery in the nation.

Each year approximately 4.5 million pounds of milk pass through the Creamery's stainless steel holding tanks. About half comes from a 225-cow herd at the University's Dairy Production Research Center, and the rest is purchased from an independent milk producer.

Home — Penn State Creamery

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[Adam]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

What's the story on other twin-named universities: Oregon, and Oregon State; Kansas, and Kansas State; North Carolina, and North Carolina State, etc.? Is it a matter of public, versus private, as it is in the examples I gave above, or is it something else?

I know with Iowa and Iowa State, both are public. As is bracket-busting Northern Iowa. Most of the states in this part of the country have the twin Universities (Michigan, Oklahoma, etc.) It's a bit different than other states that have their main university system and each school is named by the campus site (UW-Madison, UW-Milwaukee, UC-Berkley). Some states have both (UC-Boulder, Colorado State). It seems private schools named after states are typically less known (Penn being an Ivy League exception).

It seems the "State" Universities (Iowa State, Kansas State, West Virginia State) tend to be "Land Grant" universities in heritage (often began as Ag universities). They seem to have a tendency to be "second" public universities in their given states. It's not universally true, though.

[Mark Padgett]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

It seems the "State" Universities (Iowa State, Kansas State, West Virginia State) tend to be "Land Grand" universities in heritage

Minor correction - I think you mean "Land Grant".

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Mark Padgett

Minor correction - I think you mean "Land Grant".

Yup.

[Adam]

I forgot to add that these dual university systems tend to spawn intense sports rivalries when the schools are on the same athletic plane. Iowa-ISU, Michigan-MSU, Oklahoma-OSU, Oregon-OSU, Washington-WSU, Arizona-ASU, etc.

[grunewar]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

I forgot to add that these dual university systems tend to spawn intense sports rivalries when the schools are on the same athletic plane. Iowa-ISU, Michigan-MSU, Oklahoma-OSU, Oregon-OSU, Washington-WSU, Arizona-ASU, etc.

Yeah, University of Pennsylvania and Penn State.....Not!

Bwahahahaha!

[bainsey]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Here in Connecticut, we have a very large, public university, the University of Connecticut (UCONN). We also have a very small, private college, Connecticut College.

Been there. My sister-in-law went to Conn College.

Come to think of it, I don't think any states in our region (New England, New York, New Jersey) have a "University of (state)" and "(state) State University." Connecticut somewhat does, in the form of CCSU and others, and New York has the SUNY schools (which go by more common names since Albany and Binghamton went D-I). Pennsylvania and Delaware have both.

[grunewar]

Originally Posted by bainsey

Pennsylvania and Delaware have both.

University of Virginia
Virginia State University
Virginia Commonwealth University

[mbyron]

Originally Posted by grunewar

University of Virginia
Virginia State University
Virginia Commonwealth University

Virginia Tech?

[Mark Padgett]

I grew up in Illinois and there the two "major" sports colleges are the University of Illinois and Northwestern University (a private school). Although Northwestern isn't really a "powerhouse", it has a higher "conference status" than Illinois State (located in a town weirdly named "Normal"), Northern Illinois (where I attended), Eastern Illinois, Western Illinois and Southern Illinois. Oh yeah, and Prairie State (which I also attended).

The University of Illinois and Northwestern really don't have a hot rivalry going, and I don't think they ever did.

[Amesman]

Originally Posted by Mark Padgett

The University of Illinois and Northwestern really don't have a hot rivalry going, and I don't think they ever did.

The word is that they tried to once, but that the University of Illinois folks kept breaking their crayons when they went to sign the contracts to set up more games between the two teams.