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Old Wed Apr 06, 2011, 08:23am
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Reprimanded...? Didn't Burr work the NCAA tournament?
The whole crew from the Rutgers game was removed from doing games for the rest of the Big East's tournament schedule.
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Old Wed Apr 06, 2011, 09:27am
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The whole crew from the Rutgers game was removed from doing games for the rest of the Big East's tournament schedule.
But Burr did get 2 games in the NCAA Tournament.

Higgins received no games but he may not have been receiving any games anyway.

Walton didn't get any NCAA games after working the last couple years. But he did some NIT games.
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Old Wed Apr 06, 2011, 09:35am
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But Burr did get 2 games in the NCAA Tournament.

Higgins received no games but he may not have been receiving any games anyway.

Walton didn't get any NCAA games after working the last couple years. But he did some NIT games.
None of which fall under the purview of the Big East leadership. They were "punished" by the Big East for what happened in a Big East game.

Plus, Adams gave a sort of verbal reprimand. Well, more of a finger wag, but still....
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Old Wed Apr 06, 2011, 10:07am
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The whole crew from the Rutgers game was removed from doing games for the rest of the Big East's tournament schedule.
I understand...but that had nothing to do with John Adams.
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Old Wed Apr 06, 2011, 01:04pm
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I think it was Shows who passed on the travel. If he'd acted reflexively and called it, no gripe. But do you really want to make the Butler kids have to walk back across the floor to take a meaingless inbounds when the other team is already celebrating? Seems kind of cruel.
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I think it was Shows who passed on the travel. If he'd acted reflexively and called it, no gripe. But do you really want to make the Butler kids have to walk back across the floor to take a meaingless inbounds when the other team is already celebrating? Seems kind of cruel.
Good point, I guess thats why they dont just let anybody work those games.
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Old Wed Apr 06, 2011, 01:11pm
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Good point, I guess thats why they dont just let anybody work those games.
Too bad. I could really have used the money.
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Old Wed Apr 06, 2011, 01:20pm
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Good point, I guess thats why they dont just let anybody work those games.
There's some rule in FED, and I think in NCAA, that a game can be shortened if both coaches and the R agree.

The actions of the game indicate that's what happened, even if the clock operator didn't quite get the message.
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Old Wed Apr 06, 2011, 01:29pm
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There's some rule in FED, and I think in NCAA, that a game can be shortened if both coaches and the R agree.
Like CBS would ever allow that to happen.
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Old Wed Apr 06, 2011, 02:39pm
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Walton didn't get any NCAA games after working the last couple years. But he did some NIT games.
He also worked a Big Ten tournament game after he left NYC.
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It might and it might not. But I do not think anyone is going to go crazy over this not being called either. The game is over and the game was not in question. Maybe if the game was on the line yes, but it was not. I doubt this even makes a memo or a video in any way. If anything it might be said directly to the official at hand, but I doubt a big deal will be made out of it in any way.
When I watched it live, I did give it a few seconds of thought, and figured, "Well. The game's over". Thus, I have no problem with the no-call. Lopsided game. Only a few seconds left.

However. Same lopsided score. How much time has to be left to make this violation call? Five seconds? Seven seconds? Ten seconds? Twelve seconds?
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Old Wed Apr 06, 2011, 06:24pm
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Let's not put a time limit on this... experience will tell us when to blow, just like any other game management decisions we make night to night.
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Old Wed Apr 06, 2011, 06:32pm
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let's not put a time limit on this... Experience will tell us when to blow, just like any other game management decisions we make night to night.
+1 No need to over analyze this; an old dog told me that once.
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About the only thing that should have been called at that point would be an intentional or flagrant foul.
Like say the end of the UCONN/ND game?
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