OT - 60 Minutes story about coach

[bainsey]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Gee, I wonder if Steve Kroft will ask him if he recruits...

I watched it tonight. Hurley says he doesn't recruit, and the rationale is the best typically come to him to weed out through try-outs. Considering his reputation, I'll buy it.

Public high school coaches have wanted Catholic high schools to compete in their own state tournament division for many years (right now we have four divisions based on school enrollment size).

As do we. (They're called "classes" in Maine, A, B, C, D.) You hear a few rumblings of separating the publics and privates here, but considering the publics win a lot more gold balls (state titles) than the privates, it's a moot point disregarded as sour grapes. We only have three Catholic high schools (one all girls -- state Class A champion with a D-size enrollment). The other private schools are either Christian schools or without any religious affiliation. There's some recruiting, but some public schools have also been involved just as much.

I went to a public school in Maine and a private school in South Carolina, where they separate public and private school leagues. While social factors are quite different in SC than those of ME, I'd hate to see Maine creating such a dichotomy between publics and privates.

[JRutledge]

We have a similar situation where there is this perception that the private schools get and advantage and recruit. The problem is many of the private schools are not that successful in basketball. I feel it is often an easy excuse for public schools to claim "recruiting" when a lot of those kids that go to those schools would have gone to private schools anyway. Either their parents went to a particular school or they kids attended similar schools before high school. And we also have a few conferences that are all private schools or Catholic in nature.

Peace

[grunewar]

I saw the story and thought they did a pretty good job.

He says - they don't recruit. Ok, I'll buy it.

Nearly 100% of his kids get accepted to a college - his favorite part of the story.

He makes ~ $9000/yr, is the school fund raiser.....and has had multiple opportunities to coach elsewhere over the yrs.

His wife is the scorekeeper.

PS - not one mention of an official.

[JugglingReferee]

St. Anthony, Pray For Us!

[Adam]

He doesn't have to recruit now; the players come to him.

[Andy]

We've got the recruiting complaints here in AZ also, but it is not totally directed at the Private and/or Religious schools.

Most AZ school districts have "open enrollment" where a new freshman can attend any HS they want. Once they start at a HS, however, there are guidelines regarding transferring to different schools. Barring certain things, like moving to another school's attendance area, the athlete and parents have to apply to the state association for athletic eligibility.

There have been cases of a kid attending four different high schools in four years by his/her parents renting an apartment in the new schools area....

[Mark Padgett]

Originally Posted by Andy

Most AZ school districts have "open enrollment" where a new freshman can attend any HS they want.

My oldest daughter and her family live in a fairly large school district here in Oregon that has a similar policy. If your kid wants to attend a HS that is not the one in the HS boundary in which you reside, it's OK under two conditions. First, there must be room at the other school and second, there must be some reason (such as a logistical situation pertaining to how the kid would get to school, like a parent passing the other school on the way to work or a program offered there that's not offered at the closer school) although they really don't enforce the second condition. Her daughter will start HS in the fall and has decided to attend one on the other side of the district. It's because they have an outstanding girls soccer program and she is a soccer maniac. She has played on an all-star traveling team for three years and has been "recruited" by other schools because she averages scoring over two goals per game. It doesn't really matter too much, since all the high schools in the district are rated very high academically. A few of her friends are going to attend that school also.

Info for you guys familiar with the Beaverton, Oregon area - she lives in the Sunset boundary area but has decided to attend Westview.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Mark Padgett

A program offered there that's not offered at the closer school.

There's a town outside of our local officiating area that has two public high schools. One has an outstanding girls basketball program, the other one doesn't. The one with the good girls basketball program offers a state sponsored vocational agriculture program, the other one doesn't. The head coach at the basketball/agriculture school would tell the best middle school basketball players on the other side of town to sign up for vocational agriculture. He's no longer coaching there. He got in big trouble when he told his players not to play high school softball so they could play on the AAU basketball team that he sponsored.

[Tio]

I would recommend to any basketball fan to read "Miracle at St. Anthony." It is a great book about the 2004-2005 St. Anthony's squad.

Hurley doesn't need to recruit. Players seek him out... he sends nearly all of his players to college. Many to major conference D1 schools.

[BktBallRef]

Originally Posted by grunewar

He says - they don't recruit. Ok, I'll buy it.

What did you expect him to say?

[grunewar]

Originally Posted by BktBallRef

What did you expect him to say?

But, he was backed by a woman of the cloth.......I'm not calling her a liar!