Should I have "T"ed this?

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

Well, not trying to get in the middle of you and Tony...mainly because I can get myself in enough sh!t around here usually without relying on others....

LOL!!! I do know that. But if he is going to comment on what I say, I can do the same. No one was talking to him and your question was a reasonable one IMO too. I just did not answer how you probably like, but that will not be the first time that happened.

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

As I said, I can certainly see discretion being used in some instances for some acts, depending on the circumstances. And that includes slamming the ball or maybe throwing the ball against a wall so that it comes right back to him. If I think the player was doing it out of frustration at himself or being mad at himself, then yes, I would take that into consideration too. But there are some acts that I personally feel are always a no-brainer. And they include deliberately throwing or kicking the ball up into the stands at any time, no matter the reason. Another might be a loud "F" shot for no good reason either.

My only point is I have never seen a kid even attempt that other than to somehow kill the clock (kind of like the Big East situation). And the language part would depend on where I am, who did it and how many others could do it. In a game I had on Friday the gym was so loud I would not be able to hear anything. So unless I could hear something I doubt I would be giving a T for any language alone. Maybe some action would provoke a T, but I would HTBT to say for sure.

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

Personally, I don't mind the odd "F" shot is the volume is kept low and it's not happening all the time. But if someone cranks up the bass so everyone in the world can hear him, then unless there's a damn good reason for it...like the ballplayer just having broken a leg or sumthin'... I'm gonna whack that too.

Agreed.

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

Anyone else's input as to whether throwing or kicking the ball up in the stands is usually a no-brainer "T" in their area or not?

Again I have no problem with your standard. I am just saying that context matters to me. Because I hear officials say all the time the ball bouncing is an automatic T. Then I have heard officials recently say the "hand wave" is an automatic T as well.