Should I have "T"ed this?

[BillyMac]

Agree with Scrapper1. I hate it when kids do this. It's real easy to charge a technical foul here when the kid is showing his frustration with an official's call. It's a gray area when he's frustrated with himself, or his teammates. Makes it tough on the officials since the opposing fans, and the opposing coaches, always seem to want a technical foul charged.

[Mark Padgett]

Even though around here I'm known at "Mr. T", I would let this one go. He didn't indicate displeasure with the officials, he didn't delay the game, he didn't intentionally or flagrantly initiate contact during a dead ball, etc. I would just tell him not to do it again.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Mark Padgett

Around here I'm known at "Mr. T".

... wearing a belt. And, Mark Padgett, a gold lanyard? Really?

[JRutledge]

No, he showed frustration to himself. And it would not matter to me how high the ball got away, I am still giving a player that is mad with himself and not me a longer rope or consideration. I also do not give a darn what the "other fans" think. If they want to do my job, get a whistle and get your butt out there and then you can decide what I do on the court. Until then, a player that is upset with themselves over a bad play is always going to get away with much more than if they are upset with me or my officiating partners.

Peace

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

No, he showed frustration to himself. And it would not matter to me how high the ball got away, I am still giving a player that is mad with himself and not me a longer rope or consideration. I also do not give a darn what the "other fans" think. If they want to do my job, get a whistle and get your butt out there and then you can decide what I do on the court. Until then, a player that is upset with themselves over a bad play is always going to get away with much more than if they are upset with me or my officiating partners.

Same no-call if he threw or kicked the ball into the stands out of frustration at himself?

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

Same no-call if he threw or kicked the ball into the stands out of frustration at himself?

If your suggestion is that he must do something over the top to get a T, then you would be wrong. I will give a T to a kid if they do not curse and they do not directly say something to me under the right circumstances if their actions are in frustration with me or an opponent. It is not about the specific actions, it is about whom they direct it towards.

Peace

[Terrapins Fan]

It did fly past his hands and he caught it on the way down.

I didn't want a bad call making the difference in the game.

I called 7 "T"s in 11 games at the end of the season, my partners called another 4 and I thought " do I really have to call this?" I didn't think it was required by rule, like the "T" for removing the shirt, so I passed and they still weren't happy with me....

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

If your suggestion is that he must do something over the top to get a T, then you would be wrong. I will give a T to a kid if they do not curse and they do not directly say something to me under the right circumstances if their actions are in frustration with me or an opponent. It is not about the specific actions, it is about whom they direct it towards.

You'd really let a player kick the ball into the rafters if you thought he was just frustrated at himself?

I know technical fouls are always judgmental in nature, but that would be way over my personal line. That's taking it way too far imo...without even getting into the "delaying the game" aspect. If you let one player do that, you're gonna have to let all of 'em do it. Just not a good idea imo.