lanyard or carry?

[GoodwillRef]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

I wouldn't say it's a bunch of crap. Not everyone's brain and body works the same. Some folks might need that extra second to properly process everything that need to do after the whistle.

This is just a lame reasons people who spit (no lanyard) use to justify not using a lanyard.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by GoodwillRef

This is just a lame reasons people who spit (no lanyard) use to justify not using a lanyard.

I don't see how you can apply that reasoning to everybody who doesn't use a lanyard.

Guess I'm just not that cynical.

[sportsref]

The manuals(NHFS & NCAA) say you must wear a landyard. I think you should wear one when doing games. What you do in the off season is your business. When you are in the BIG TIME, do what you want. Otherwise, where a landyard...WANT-A-BE!

If it effects my partners' performance, I am sure the supervisor will tell them. If supervisors don't, oh well. I will not say anything until it starts hurting the crew.

[GoodwillRef]

Originally Posted by sportsref

the manuals(nhfs & ncaa) say you must wear a landyard. I think you should wear one when doing games. What you do in the off season is your business. When you are in the big time, do what you want. Otherwise, where a landyard...want-a-be!

If it effects my partners' performance, i am sure the supervisor will tell them. If supervisors don't, oh well. I will not say anything until it starts hurting the crew.

+1

[Adam]

Originally Posted by sportsref

The manuals(NHFS & NCAA) say you must wear a landyard. I think you should wear one when doing games. What you do in the off season is your business. When you are in the BIG TIME, do what you want. Otherwise, where a landyard...WANT-A-BE!

If it effects my partners' performance, I am sure the supervisor will tell them. If supervisors don't, oh well. I will not say anything until it starts hurting the crew.

How about this: If your supervisor/assigner cares, follow suit. If he/she doesn't, then it isn't a big deal. Period.

[APG]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

How about this: If your supervisor/assigner cares, follow suit. If he/she doesn't, then it isn't a big deal. Period.

That's pretty much true about anything we do.

[GoodwillRef]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

How about this: If your supervisor/assigner cares, follow suit. If he/she doesn't, then it isn't a big deal. Period.

If both manuals say you should use a lanyard but your supervisor doesn't care you shouldn't care. So if my supervisor doesn't care if I wear white shoes it shouldn't matter...if my supervisor doesn't care if I wear shorts instead of pants it shouldn't matter?

[Adam]

Originally Posted by GoodwillRef

If both manuals say you should use a lanyard but your supervisor doesn't care you shouldn't care. So if my supervisor doesn't care if I wear white shoes it shouldn't matter...if my supervisor doesn't care if I wear shorts instead of pants it shouldn't matter?

Pretty much boils it down.
The rules currently do not allow for an optional shot clock, yet some states adopt it.
The rules say the jackets need to be black, yet I've seen crews wear white jackets.
The rules don't allow for the foul-tip signal, yet....
What's the NFHS manual say about side-panel shirts? Gray shirts? I don't know, to be honest, but it doesn't matter because they were allowed by my local association for the first time this year. Those working playoffs, however, have been instructed not to wear them.

With this stuff, it really comes down to what's acceptable to your supervisor.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by GoodwillRef

If both manuals say you should use a lanyard but your supervisor doesn't care you shouldn't care. So if my supervisor doesn't care if I wear white shoes it shouldn't matter...if my supervisor doesn't care if I wear shorts instead of pants it shouldn't matter?

Is that really a realistic comparison?

How about this? The NFHS manual says to report fouls with 1 hands. Some supervisors don't care so you have officials who do 2-hand reporting. Would I care if my partners do that? Absolutely not.

Would I care if my partner were shorts or white shoes? That's a totally different ball game we're talking about now.

[GoodwillRef]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

Is that really a realistic comparison?

How about this? The NFHS manual says to report fouls with 1 hands. Some supervisors don't care so you have officials who do 2-hand reporting. Would I care if my partners do that? Absolutely not.

Would I care if my partner were shorts or white shoes? That's a totally different ball game we're talking about now.

Sorry...I wasn't being realistic.

[reffish]

Let me chime in on this matter. As if it will make all the difference in the world. One association I carry, the other I don't. All MS and wreck league games I carry. Why? Because I can, that's why. Am I slower? Probably not, more likely quicker and not as sharp on the mechanics, but definitely more vocal in those games, especially MS girls. I find MS girls games being vocal with the players and coaches is easier than sharp mechanics. So I carry to verbalize clearer to the players.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by GoodwillRef

If both manuals say you should use a lanyard but your supervisor doesn't care you shouldn't care. So if my supervisor doesn't care if I wear white shoes it shouldn't matter...if my supervisor doesn't care if I wear shorts instead of pants it shouldn't matter?

Getting a l'il carried away, aren't ya?

A supervisor usually sets a dress code. The lanyard might be part of that code. If it isn't, just ask the supervisor if he/she has a preference and proceed accordingly. What it isn't is a biggie imo.

[APG]

I personally like going sans-lanyard but I only save that for rec league. I have no reason why I do. Do I care if my partner goes sans or not? Hell no. Should a partner care? That's another hell no...especially if it doesn't effect how your partner works the game, but many do for some reason.

[GoodwillRef]

Originally Posted by AllPurposeGamer

I personally like going sans-lanyard but I only save that for rec league. I have no reason why I do. Do I care if my partner goes sans or not? Hell no. Should a partner care? That's another hell no...especially if it doesn't effect how your partner works the game, but many do for some reason.

If it doesn't effect the game I don't really care. I work with some college officials that work pro or pro-am ball and you would never know if the had a lanyard or not...but we have had a rash of high school officials in our area that starting going without a lanyard and IMO after watching and working with them it effects their performance and communciation skills...not acceptable.

[jbduke]

Originally Posted by GoodwillRef

If it doesn't effect the game I don't really care. I work with some college officials that work pro or pro-am ball and you would never know if the had a lanyard or not...but we have had a rash of high school officials in our area that starting going without a lanyard and IMO after watching and working with them it effects their performance and communciation skills...not acceptable.

And this, beyond what supervisors and observers want, is the whole ballgame.

There are lots of officials who think that those who carry a whistle are showing off because, well, lots of guys (not saying a majority) who carry are indeed showing off. As with most things in life, the motivation underlying an act will significantly impact its execution. If you carry to look cool, then you're not going to get the maximum benefit out of the process. If on the other hand, you decide to pracice carrying for the purpose of slowing down, then there are definite benefits to be had.

I experimented for a while with carrying a few years back, and I'll admit that at the outset of that project, I was concerned more with style than substance. But after doing it for a little while, I realized that I was only going to hurt myself if I didn't slow down without a lanyard. After breaking through that barrier, I did indeed slow down on some things, and i believe I helped myself significantly.

FWIW, I broke my lanyard in a game a couple of weeks ago, and I went the last ten minutes without one. I could actually feel myself, and shortly thereafter the game, slowing down. Of course I could have run back into the locker room to grab another lanyard, but thought I could get by based on prior practice. Luckily I didn't embarrass myself.

I don't see any downside at all to practicing without a lanyard in rec games, just to see what it does to your game. If you don't like it, or don't feel comfortable doing it, then don't continue. But I would encourage anyone to be very, very honest with him/herself about going into a meaningful game without one. If your partners or anyone else can notice any negative impact on the game as a result, then you need to grab a lanyard, post haste.