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Old Mon Feb 21, 2011, 03:16pm
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say a1 and a2 are in the front court a few feet inside the division line, like six feet apart with no close defenders. a1 passes to a2, who flubs the catch, it hits his knee and the ball bounces between them.

my question is, is team control retained?

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Old Mon Feb 21, 2011, 03:19pm
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say a1 and a2 are in the front court a few feet inside the division line, like six feet apart with no close defenders. a1 passes to a2, who flubs the catch, it hits his knee and the ball bounces between them.

my question is, is team control retained?

/many thanks!!
The term you mean is team control. Team control is established by a player holding or dribbling a live ball inbounds. The only way team control ends is if there's a try, the ball becomes dead, or the defense gains control of the ball.
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Old Mon Feb 21, 2011, 03:27pm
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The term you mean is team control. Team control is established by a player holding or dribbling a live ball inbounds. The only way team control ends is if there's a try, the ball becomes dead, or the defense gains control of the ball.

okay, thanks...so if a1 bends over to pick it up, accidently brushes it into the backcourt, goes into the back court completely to get it, do we have over and back?

just trying to get a grasp of the minutiae of the rules...3rd year guy. we had this happen in our jv game friday. asked the varsity guys when they came in, one said over and back, the other two said no. thanks.
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Old Mon Feb 21, 2011, 03:53pm
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okay, thanks...so if a1 bends over to pick it up, accidently brushes it into the backcourt, goes into the back court completely to get it, do we have over and back?

just trying to get a grasp of the minutiae of the rules...3rd year guy. we had this happen in our jv game friday. asked the varsity guys when they came in, one said over and back, the other two said no. thanks.
3rd year guy and you don't know this one...2 of the 3 V guys don't either?? I'm sorry, I guess I'm missing something here...must not be seeing your post correctly, hmm.
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Old Mon Feb 21, 2011, 03:28pm
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The term you mean is team control. Team control is established by a player holding or dribbling a live ball inbounds. The only way team control ends is if there's a try, the ball becomes dead, or the defense gains control of the ball.
just re-read your post, and it clicked...thanks!!!!
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just re-read your post, and it clicked...thanks!!!!
With that information how would you rule your play? And what were the arguments for and against the backcourt violation?
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Old Mon Feb 21, 2011, 04:06pm
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With that information how would you rule your play? And what were the arguments for and against the backcourt violation?
over and back...team control never ended. no try, no defensive possession.

to "letemplay"

yeah...i knew the question was probably stupid...i do as many games as i can, usually 8-10 per week at any level... but, sometimes the minutiae of the rules get lodged sideways in my brain...seems like the more i read the less i understand. thats why this website is invaluable to me.
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Old Mon Feb 21, 2011, 04:11pm
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over and back...team control never ended. no try, no defensive possession.

to "letemplay"

yeah...i knew the question was probably stupid...i do as many games as i can, usually 8-10 per week at any level... but, sometimes the minutiae of the rules get lodged sideways in my brain...seems like the more i read the less i understand. thats why this website is invaluable to me.
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say a1 and a2 are in the front court a few feet inside the division line, like six feet apart with no close defenders. a1 passes to a2, who flubs the catch, it hits his knee and the ball bounces between them.

my question is, is team control retained?

/many thanks!!
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