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Old Thu Feb 10, 2011, 01:28pm
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Pardon an intruder, but just a question you probably have covered somewhere before.
What I remember from way back as a BB ref, is that only player control fouls were exempt from shooting FT. I think I saw play where an offensive foul was called (I saw moving screen, not sure that was the call); not player control, but no FT even though team in bonus.

What is the correct rule for NCAA and NFHS?
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Old Thu Feb 10, 2011, 01:30pm
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Pardon an intruder, but just a question you probably have covered somewhere before.
What I remember from way back as a BB ref, is that only player control fouls were exempt from shooting FT. I think I saw play where an offensive foul was called (I saw moving screen, not sure that was the call); not player control, but no FT even though team in bonus.

What is the correct rule for NCAA and NFHS?
No FTs for offensive fouls (player & team control).
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Old Thu Feb 10, 2011, 01:32pm
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It's a relatively new change, Cecil.
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It's been a recent change. I actually remember the change happening while I was playing in high school.

All team control foul result in no free throws being shot. Team control is established by a player holding or dribbling a live ball inbounds. In college, there's also team control during a throw-in while in high school there isn't. Team control ends when the ball becomes dead, or the team not in control of the ball gains control of it.
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Team control ends when the ball becomes dead, or the team not in control of the ball gains control of it.
Missed one.
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Missed one.
Shot attempt.
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Missed one.
And when the ball's in flight during a try.
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Old Thu Feb 10, 2011, 01:54pm
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Yup ^ I like the fact that in NCAA-M we can score the basket if it was already released & go with the push on the crash.
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Old Thu Feb 10, 2011, 01:56pm
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Also team control when ball is live and being passed between teammates.
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Old Thu Feb 10, 2011, 01:58pm
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And when the ball's in flight during a try.
Stated much more accurately, APG, but that's what I was trying to say.
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NO team control while ball is in flight on try. Team control ends on any shot.
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Old Thu Feb 10, 2011, 02:13pm
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NO team control while ball is in flight on try. Team control ends on any shot.
That's already been established.
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That's already been established.
Yes but did you know that team control ends when a ball is in flight on a try?
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Yes but did you know that team control ends when a ball is in flight on a try?
I've heard rumors.
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OK, I thought it was a simple Q, didn't know it automatically would transcend to a team control topic.
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