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CecilOne Thu Feb 10, 2011 01:28pm

offensive foul
 
Pardon an intruder, but just a question you probably have covered somewhere before.
What I remember from way back as a BB ref, is that only player control fouls were exempt from shooting FT. I think I saw play where an offensive foul was called (I saw moving screen, not sure that was the call); not player control, but no FT even though team in bonus. :confused:

What is the correct rule for NCAA and NFHS?

tref Thu Feb 10, 2011 01:30pm

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Originally Posted by CecilOne (Post 728647)
Pardon an intruder, but just a question you probably have covered somewhere before.
What I remember from way back as a BB ref, is that only player control fouls were exempt from shooting FT. I think I saw play where an offensive foul was called (I saw moving screen, not sure that was the call); not player control, but no FT even though team in bonus. :confused:

What is the correct rule for NCAA and NFHS?

No FTs for offensive fouls (player & team control).

Adam Thu Feb 10, 2011 01:32pm

It's a relatively new change, Cecil.

APG Thu Feb 10, 2011 01:50pm

It's been a recent change. I actually remember the change happening while I was playing in high school.

All team control foul result in no free throws being shot. Team control is established by a player holding or dribbling a live ball inbounds. In college, there's also team control during a throw-in while in high school there isn't. Team control ends when the ball becomes dead, or the team not in control of the ball gains control of it.

Adam Thu Feb 10, 2011 01:52pm

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Originally Posted by AllPurposeGamer (Post 728660)
Team control ends when the ball becomes dead, or the team not in control of the ball gains control of it.

Missed one.

biz Thu Feb 10, 2011 01:53pm

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Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 728661)
Missed one.

Shot attempt.:)

APG Thu Feb 10, 2011 01:54pm

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Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 728661)
Missed one.

And when the ball's in flight during a try.

tref Thu Feb 10, 2011 01:54pm

Yup ^ I like the fact that in NCAA-M we can score the basket if it was already released & go with the push on the crash.

cmhjordan23 Thu Feb 10, 2011 01:56pm

Also team control when ball is live and being passed between teammates.

biz Thu Feb 10, 2011 01:58pm

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Originally Posted by AllPurposeGamer (Post 728665)
And when the ball's in flight during a try.

Stated much more accurately, APG, but that's what I was trying to say.

cmhjordan23 Thu Feb 10, 2011 02:05pm

NO team control while ball is in flight on try. Team control ends on any shot.

APG Thu Feb 10, 2011 02:13pm

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Originally Posted by cmhjordan23 (Post 728669)
NO team control while ball is in flight on try. Team control ends on any shot.

That's already been established. :p

Welpe Thu Feb 10, 2011 02:14pm

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Originally Posted by AllPurposeGamer (Post 728675)
That's already been established. :p

Yes but did you know that team control ends when a ball is in flight on a try?

APG Thu Feb 10, 2011 02:18pm

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Originally Posted by Welpe (Post 728677)
Yes but did you know that team control ends when a ball is in flight on a try?

I've heard rumors.

CecilOne Thu Feb 10, 2011 04:48pm

OK, I thought it was a simple Q, didn't know it automatically would transcend to a team control topic. ;) :)


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