What do you say?

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by BLydic

I wouldn't assume the player knows he/she can't run the endline on a frontcourt throw-in.

Me neither, but it's the coach's responsibility to teach their players that, not ours. If you want to remind a player, fine. If you don't though, it is never the official's fault if he/she has to call a violation.

[Mark Padgett]

Last night, 7th grade boys game. Coming out of a timeout, A1 has a spot throw-in on B's endline. Before I can say anything, he asks if he can "run". I tell him sure, but it would be a violation, but if he really wants to, go ahead.

He gets that deer in headlights look, then smiles and says, "Oh, I get it."

He didn't violate.

[tref]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

Me neither, but it's the coach's responsibility to teach their players that, not ours. If you want to remind a player, fine. If you don't though, it is never the official's fault if he/she has to call a violation.

But the calling official shall indicate the spot with a point & the administering official shall designate the spot with a point, correct?

[PG_Ref]

Originally Posted by tref

But the calling official shall indicate the spot with a point & the administering official shall designate the spot with a point, correct?

Correct ...


Seems like, from the small sampling, it's another case of follow the Romans.

Thanks

[jTheUmp]

New(ish), guy here, but I don't ever say "spot" or anything like that. I will, however, explicitly tell a thrower "you can run the endline if you want to" when applicable.

Thing is, at least around here, it seems like kids have an almost pathalogical aversion to running the endline, even when allowed to do so. So, in practice, it seems to not really matter.

[stiffler3492]

Originally Posted by jTheUmp

New(ish), guy here, but I don't ever say "spot" or anything like that. I will, however, explicitly tell a thrower "you can run the endline if you want to" when applicable.

Thing is, at least around here, it seems like kids have an almost pathalogical aversion to running the endline, even when allowed to do so. So, in practice, it seems to not really matter.

I've noticed that too...Even when they ask if they can, they still don't.

[Eastshire]

"This spot only" or "You have the whole end line" as appropriate. I only say this when administering a BC throw-in. I always point to the spot.

[RobbyinTN]

I did a middle school game a couple of weeks ago and everytime the visiting team got the ball for in bounds they asked if they could run the baseline I got very tired of answering them

[stiffler3492]

Originally Posted by RobbyinTN

I did a middle school game a couple of weeks ago and everytime the visiting team got the ball for in bounds they asked if they could run the baseline I got very tired of answering them

Hahaha. Good coaching, IMO. They'll eventually learn the rule.

[stiffler3492]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

Me neither, but it's the coach's responsibility to teach their players that, not ours. If you want to remind a player, fine. If you don't though, it is never the official's fault if he/she has to call a violation.

Didn't you say earlier that it's fine if we want to remind players? I agree that it's not our fault if they violate, but it gives us an out if a player did tell his coach that we didn't tell them they couldn't move.

"Well, coach, I certainly did tell your player that he couldn't run the endline". End of conversation, leave it between player and coach now.

I've certainly gotten myself into the habit of saying "Hold your spot" when applicable. It takes not even a second, and may be unnecessary, but I personally think it's a good idea.

[Eastshire]

Originally Posted by stiffler3492

Didn't you say earlier that it's fine if we want to remind players? I agree that it's not our fault if they violate, but it gives us an out if a player did tell his coach that we didn't tell them they couldn't move.

"Well, coach, I certainly did tell your player that he couldn't run the endline". End of conversation, leave it between player and coach now.

I've certainly gotten myself into the habit of saying "Hold your spot" when applicable. It takes not even a second, and may be unnecessary, but I personally think it's a good idea.

We don't need an out.

I say it because it's good preventative officiating. I also announce the number of free throws to be attempted. It's not a secret and telling a player it's a spot throw-in doesn't coach him. If he's coached he knows what it means, if not, he doesn't. That's where the coaching is.

[26 Year Gap]

Sounds similar to these:

"Okay, fellas, we have two shots, so just relax on the first one."
Rather than "Two".

"Okay, fellas, one shot. Wait till it hits the rim."

Instead of "One".

[RookieDude]

Originally Posted by 26 Year Gap

Sounds similar to these:

"Okay, fellas, we have two shots, so just relax on the first one."
Rather than "Two".

"Okay, fellas, one shot. Wait till it hits the rim."

Instead of "One".

I never say "relax"...I just say "two"...

but, I do say "let it hit something" as I am backing out...after I say "one".

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by 26 Year Gap

Wait till it hits the rim.

Whether you say it, or not, the statement is wrong. At the beginning of the season, with little Catholic school kids, I will say, "Let it hit".

[stiffler3492]

Originally Posted by Eastshire

We don't need an out.

I say it because it's good preventative officiating. I also announce the number of free throws to be attempted. It's not a secret and telling a player it's a spot throw-in doesn't coach him. If he's coached he knows what it means, if not, he doesn't. That's where the coaching is.

You're better with words than I am, because that's pretty much what I was getting at.