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Old Thu Feb 03, 2011, 12:50pm
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When you have a designated spot throw-in, what do you say to verbally communicate it? ... "spot", "throw-in", "spot throw-in". Or do you verbally communicate it at all. Just curious what the consensus might be.
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Old Thu Feb 03, 2011, 12:54pm
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When you have a designated spot throw-in, what do you say to verbally communicate it? ... "spot", "throw-in", "spot throw-in". Or do you verbally communicate it at all. Just curious what the consensus might be.
Well, you would only have this issue in the backcourt going long. I think you can say spot or spot throw-in.
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Old Thu Feb 03, 2011, 01:02pm
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Well, you would only have this issue in the backcourt going long. I think you can say spot or spot throw-in.
Hmmm I thought every sideline throw-in was designated as well as any f/c throw-in.

I say spot as I point to it.
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Old Thu Feb 03, 2011, 01:07pm
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A number of people around here say "designated," even on sideline throw-ins. I never saw the point of saying it on sidelines, must be force of habit.
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Old Thu Feb 03, 2011, 01:34pm
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A number of people around here say "designated," even on sideline throw-ins. I never saw the point of saying it on sidelines, must be force of habit.
I'm one of those people
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Old Thu Feb 03, 2011, 01:49pm
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A number of people around here say "designated," even on sideline throw-ins. I never saw the point of saying it on sidelines, must be force of habit.
I'm one of them too, it's the way I was taught.
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Old Thu Feb 03, 2011, 02:49pm
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I tell them to stay on their spot as I point to a spot on the floor. And I do it every time we are on the baseline going long.
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Old Thu Feb 03, 2011, 03:38pm
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A number of people around here say "designated," even on sideline throw-ins. I never saw the point of saying it on sidelines, must be force of habit.
Not the two-syllable color call!
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Old Thu Feb 03, 2011, 01:08pm
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Well, you would only have this issue in the backcourt going long. I think you can say spot or spot throw-in.
I wouldn't assume the player knows he/she can't run the endline on a frontcourt throw-in.
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Old Thu Feb 03, 2011, 01:15pm
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I wouldn't assume the player knows he/she can't run the endline on a frontcourt throw-in.
Me neither, but it's the coach's responsibility to teach their players that, not ours. If you want to remind a player, fine. If you don't though, it is never the official's fault if he/she has to call a violation.
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Old Thu Feb 03, 2011, 01:19pm
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Last night, 7th grade boys game. Coming out of a timeout, A1 has a spot throw-in on B's endline. Before I can say anything, he asks if he can "run". I tell him sure, but it would be a violation, but if he really wants to, go ahead.

He gets that deer in headlights look, then smiles and says, "Oh, I get it."

He didn't violate.
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Old Thu Feb 03, 2011, 01:35pm
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Me neither, but it's the coach's responsibility to teach their players that, not ours. If you want to remind a player, fine. If you don't though, it is never the official's fault if he/she has to call a violation.
But the calling official shall indicate the spot with a point & the administering official shall designate the spot with a point, correct?
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Old Thu Feb 03, 2011, 02:12pm
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But the calling official shall indicate the spot with a point & the administering official shall designate the spot with a point, correct?
Correct ...


Seems like, from the small sampling, it's another case of follow the Romans.

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Old Thu Feb 03, 2011, 03:28pm
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Me neither, but it's the coach's responsibility to teach their players that, not ours. If you want to remind a player, fine. If you don't though, it is never the official's fault if he/she has to call a violation.
Didn't you say earlier that it's fine if we want to remind players? I agree that it's not our fault if they violate, but it gives us an out if a player did tell his coach that we didn't tell them they couldn't move.

"Well, coach, I certainly did tell your player that he couldn't run the endline". End of conversation, leave it between player and coach now.

I've certainly gotten myself into the habit of saying "Hold your spot" when applicable. It takes not even a second, and may be unnecessary, but I personally think it's a good idea.
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Old Thu Feb 03, 2011, 03:36pm
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Didn't you say earlier that it's fine if we want to remind players? I agree that it's not our fault if they violate, but it gives us an out if a player did tell his coach that we didn't tell them they couldn't move.

"Well, coach, I certainly did tell your player that he couldn't run the endline". End of conversation, leave it between player and coach now.

I've certainly gotten myself into the habit of saying "Hold your spot" when applicable. It takes not even a second, and may be unnecessary, but I personally think it's a good idea.
We don't need an out.

I say it because it's good preventative officiating. I also announce the number of free throws to be attempted. It's not a secret and telling a player it's a spot throw-in doesn't coach him. If he's coached he knows what it means, if not, he doesn't. That's where the coaching is.
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